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Old 08-16-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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Oh please.. your lies are so easily proven.
Children in poverty wouldn't go hungry if food stamps are cut or gotten rid of?
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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Children in poverty wouldn't go hungry if food stamps are cut or gotten rid of?
Around here, our schools serve breakfast, and lunch.. Are you suggesting people would stop sending their kids to school if food stamps were abolished, or are you admitting that people dont go out and find jobs because they have a food stamp program which subsidizes their non working lifestyle?

Tell me how many people food stamps have lifted out of poverty...
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I already posted pdf files from the intelligence department saying you're wrong, again..

yes, we did destroy large quanitities, not all of them, or once again, the balance wouldnt have been located..

Stop embarassing (sic) yourself by displaying you have no idea what you are talking about.. as always.
It is you who is embarrassing yourself and confirming that although you accuse others of not knowing what they are talking about, you are the pot calling the kettle black:

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CIA’s final report: No WMD found in Iraq

WASHINGTON — In his final word, the CIA’s top weapons inspector in Iraq said Monday that the hunt for weapons of mass destruction has “gone as far as feasible” and has found nothing, closing an investigation into the purported programs of Saddam Hussein that were used to justify the 2003 invasion.
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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It is you who is embarrassing yourself:
That was 2005, before the declassification of documents in June 2006 which showed otherwise.

Try again
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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Around here, our schools serve breakfast, and lunch.. Are you suggesting people would stop sending their kids to school if food stamps were abolished, or are you admitting that people dont go out and find jobs because they have a food stamp program which subsidizes their non working lifestyle?

Tell me how many people food stamps have lifted out of poverty...
Kids go to school every day of the year?

Tell me how getting rid of food stamps would lift children out of poverty?
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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Kids go to school every day of the year?
So we should only give food stamps out in the summer then?
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Tell me how getting rid of food stamps would lift children out of poverty?
Where do you think the hundreds of billions of dollars we spend on food stamps comes from? Do you think it disappears out of society if its not being spent on foodstamps? But your question is only relevant if you admit that having them impoverish individuals.
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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That was 2005, before the declassification of documents in June 2006 which showed otherwise.

Try again
This was 2010: Karl Rove admits there were NO WMD and the U.S. public wouldn't have backed an invasion had not the threat of WMD.

This is a must see video:
Karl Rove reveals truth behind Iraq war decision - Video on NBCNews.com
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:57 AM
 
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This was 2010: Karl Rove admits there were NO WMD and the U.S. public wouldn't have backed an invasion had not the threat of WMD.

This is a must see video:
Karl Rove reveals truth behind Iraq war decision - Video on NBCNews.com
Karl Rove saying something doesnt change a declassified document by the US Intelligence Department which says otherwise.

I give you a D-.. You'd get a F but you keep trying and I like watching you guys squirm with embarassment.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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Karl Rove saying something doesnt change a declassified document by the US Intelligence Department which says otherwise.

I give you a D-.. You'd get a F but you keep trying and I like watching you guys squirm with embarassment.
What your document (http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...classified.pdf) showed was a six bullet-point list which was clearly a grasping for straws response to Congress' question. According to that, they only found 500 pre-Gulf War munitions of dubious quality (since the chemicals degrade over time.)

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The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, Chu added.
http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=15918
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The lawmakers pointed to an unclassified summary from a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center regarding 500 chemical munitions shells that had been buried near the Iranian border, and then long forgotten, by Iraqi troops during their eight-year war with Iran, which ended in 1988.

The U.S. military announced in 2004 in Iraq that several crates of the old shells had been uncovered and that they contained a blister agent that was no longer active. Neither the military nor the White House nor the CIA considered the shells to be evidence of what was alleged by the Bush administration to be a current Iraqi program to make chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Last night, intelligence officials reaffirmed that the shells were old and were not the suspected weapons of mass destruction sought in Iraq after the 2003 invasion.
Since the Bush Admin was claiming that Iraq had an active chemical and nuclear program, the fact that forces only found aged pre-1990 weapons proves that that ongoing program was fiction.

Clearly, the U.S. didn't invade Iraq, at a cost of billions and thousands of troops, in order to recover aged shells forgotten from the Gulf War.

We can also conclude that your smoking gun of the existence of WMD is discredited.

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Old 08-16-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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What your document (http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...classified.pdf) showed was a six bullet-pint list which was clearly a grasping for straws response to Congress' question. They only found 500 pre-Gulf War munitions of dubious quality since the chemicals degrade over time.
Oh so they ONLY found 500 of them, so I guess you now admit they were found.

And you wouldnt know the quality of them, until after they were found
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Since the Bush Admin was claiming that Iraq had an active chemical and nuclear program, the fact that forces only found aged pre-1990 weapons proves that that ongoing program was fiction.
The discussion isnt about a nuclear program, (which I believe they had but dismantled), the discussion is about WMD's... and its not fiction if you just admitted they were found.. Give it a break.
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Clearly, the U.S. didn't invade Iraq at a cost of billions and thousands of troops, in order to recover aged shells forgotten from the Gulf War.
Since none of us were in on the private discussions of the President, we have no way of knowing what the motivation was, so stop pretending you do.
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