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Old 09-12-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Strangely enough, OP is actually right. MJ was banned in 1914 with the Harrison act, and much of it hinged on race. Progressives of the time were heavily into 'eugenics' which was a claptrap race theory that was all the rage among academics at the time. There were fears of black males getting white females high as a kite, and having their way with them. That was how the whole war on drugs got started.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:18 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Strangely enough, OP is actually right. MJ was banned in 1914 with the Harrison act, and much of it hinged on race. Progressives of the time were heavily into 'eugenics' which was a claptrap race theory that was all the rage among academics at the time. There were fears of black males getting white females high as a kite, and having their way with them. That was how the whole war on drugs got started.

The paper industry and Dupont certainly didn't help either.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Fear not. Now that MJ has been legalized, the smugglers and the cartels and the dealers have moved into pushing heroin to young kids in Colorado. That stuff has the added advantage of being addictive assuring that there will be jobs in the underworld for years to come.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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After reading dub dub II's thread 3 pages in, his opinions are his own. Don't include the rest of us in his rant.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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Folks are pretty selective about their weed.

Unless Marlboro gets the Walter White of ganja on its team I'm not sure about this.
Yeah, that's what I've kinda been thinkin'. I very rarely indulge, but when I do, I am very picky, just as I am with food. The herb (Marijuana) has to be as fragrant, fresh and as vibrant as any herb that I would use in cooking. Will a commercial company deliver that quality? Are they at this moment buying up land in Maui, Jamaica, Africa for this very purpose? Does anyone know if Thai stick is back in fashion and will Marlboro have it? Will they utilize the hydroponic method?
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:36 AM
 
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interest point... but I would say all races have been involved in the wacky tobaccy but the punishment definitely comes down the hardest on the weakest players in the game.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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Marijuana has always been about race in America. Why was it criminalized in the first place? Exactly.

Black/Mexican men are punished more severely because of it. That's a fact. That's the issue.
Absolutely rediculous.

Did you see the police officers handing out doritos at the Seattle Hemp Fest?
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Perhaps I will. Your loss...

I'm value you'd do well not to lose.
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Yes, because complaining on the internet is so valuable.
lol! +1
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:39 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Predictable.

Knew the small time dealers who advocated legal mj would be put out of business by large companies.....

Now Marlboro opens itself to law suits for short and long term adverse events.
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The Uniform State Narcotic Act, first tentative draft in
1925 and fifth final version in 1932, was a result of work by the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State
Laws
. It was argued that the traffic in narcotic drugs should have
the same safeguards and the same regulation in all of the states. The committee
took into consideration the fact that the federal government had already passed
The Harrison Act in 1914 and The Federal Import and
Export Act in 1922. Many people assumed that the Harrison Act was all that was
necessary. The Harrison Act, however, was a revenue-producing act and, while it
provided penalties for violation, it did not give the states themselves
authority to exercise police power in regard to seizure of drugs used in illicit
trade, or in regard to punishment of those responsible. The act was recommended
to the states for that purpose.[SIZE=2][20][/SIZE] As a result of
the Uniform State Narcotic Act, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics encouraged state
governments to adopt the act. By the middle of the 1930s all member states had
some regulation of cannabis.[SIZE=2][21][/SIZE][SIZE=2][22][/SIZE][SIZE=2][23][/SIZE]

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The decision of the United States Congress to pass the Marijuana
Tax Act of 1937
was based on hearings and reports.[SIZE=2][35][/SIZE][SIZE=2][36][/SIZE] In 1936 the
Federal Bureau of Narcotics (FBN) noticed an increase of reports of people
smoking marijuana, which further increased in 1937. The Bureau drafted a
legislative plan for Congress, seeking a new law and the head of the FBN, Harry J. Anslinger, ran a campaign against
marijuana.[SIZE=2][37][/SIZE][SIZE=2][38][/SIZE] Newspaper mogul
William Randolph Hearst's empire of newspapers began
publishing what is known as "yellow journalism", demonizing the cannabis plant and
putting emphasis on connections between cannabis and violent crime.[SIZE=2][39][/SIZE] Several scholars
argue that the goal was to destroy the hemp industry,[SIZE=2][40][/SIZE][SIZE=2][41][/SIZE][SIZE=2][42][/SIZE] largely as an
effort of Hearst, Andrew Mellon and the Du Pont family.[SIZE=2][40][/SIZE][SIZE=2][42][/SIZE] They argue that
with the invention of the decorticator hemp became a very cheap substitute for
the paper pulp that was used in the newspaper
industry.[SIZE=2][40][/SIZE][SIZE=2][43][/SIZE] They also
believe that Hearst felt that this was a threat to his extensive timber holdings. Mellon was Secretary of the Treasury and the wealthiest man in
America and had invested heavily in nylon, DuPont's new synthetic fiber, and considered its
success to depend on its replacement of the traditional resource, hemp.[SIZE=2][40][/SIZE][SIZE=2][44][/SIZE][SIZE=2][45][/SIZE][SIZE=2][46][/SIZE][SIZE=2][47][/SIZE][SIZE=2][48][/SIZE][SIZE=2][49][/SIZE][SIZE=2][50][/SIZE] According to
other researchers there were other things than hemp more important for DuPont in
the mid-1930s: to finish the product (nylon) before its German competitors, to
start plants for nylon with much larger capacity, etc.[SIZE=2][51][/SIZE]
The real push for making weed illegal was as a jobs program for the federal government. The ban on alcholol via prohibition was unpopular, and was on it's way to repeal. At the least, the "writing was on the wall" with regard to it's future. We had a large number of government employees in the Treasury department who would become superfluous with the ending of prohibition. Since reducing the size and scope of the federal government, and firing federal employees, was unthinkable, something else need to be "taxed". As such, taxes on pot, as well as the National Firearms Act of 1934, were for the most part, jobs programs. Both were stupid, ignorant policies to put into effect.
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