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Old 09-29-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Yes, the "multiplier effect" is better known as "multiple lies Democrats tell".

There is no such thing.
Wow. You really are economically illiterate.

Multiplier (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 
Old 09-29-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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He could have brought the military home long ago. It was his decision to continue the wars that no one can explain the need for. He could have addressed the decreased revenue for those outside of Wall Street by now also.
He did end the war in Iraq, as quickly as he could.

How would he address decreased revenue?
 
Old 09-29-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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He did end the war in Iraq, as quickly as he could.
And increased our involvement in Afghanistan. Got us involved in Libya and has us involved in Syria. That is not ending anything.

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How would he address decreased revenue?
By realizing that Wall Street does not drive the economy. He had many good ideas as candidate Obama but he has discarded them as president Obama. One would have been his promise to address corporations off shoring of jobs.
 
Old 09-29-2013, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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[quote=pknopp;31601330]And increased our involvement in Afghanistan. Got us involved in Libya and has us involved in Syria. That is not ending anything.
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Yes, because Afghanistan and Iraq were our responsibility and ours to fix due to GWB's bungling.

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By realizing that Wall Street does not drive the economy. He had many good ideas as candidate Obama but he has discarded them as president Obama. One would have been his promise to address corporations off shoring of jobs.
The highway bill included a Buy American provision, and Democrats had to convince the Republicans to support it, thanks to their free market fundamentalism and corporatism.

Dems want

House and Senate pass highway bill that includes updated Buy America preferences | Alliance for American Manufacturing


Republicans succeeded in weakening the Buy American provision in the Stimulus. John McCain actually tried to strip it out completely.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/....buy.american/
 
Old 09-29-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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Yes, because Afghanistan and Iraq were our responsibility and ours to fix due to GWB's bungling.
It is quite obvious to me that some people will defend anything as long as their politics require it. 6 years ago he could have declared the war over if he had wanted to.


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Republicans succeeded in weakening the Buy American provision in the Stimulus. John McCain actually tried to strip it out completely.
Senate eases 'Buy American' clause in stimulus - CNN.com
I believe you can find many statements from me noting that McCain is a complete moron. But the Senate is run by the Democrats so nothing was done without actions from them.
 
Old 09-29-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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Obama needs to keep the 14th amendment in mind as a viable option to stop this extreme nonsense.
 
Old 09-29-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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18 times under Reagan. 18 times.

Justify it.

No one is trying to justifying, kicking the can down the road.
It is just that we are now looking at the end of that road and the can is pretty beat up.
 
Old 09-29-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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The debt ceiling being raised isn't something only one side needs, it's what the country needs. The GOP is trying to force partisan measures on something that is essential to the country. They're holding the American economy hostage, which will be out billions in a shutdown.
Did you gain this knowledge since 2006? Like obama did?
 
Old 09-29-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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18 times under Reagan. 18 times.

Justify it.
and 18 times the dems were against it.

Justify that.
 
Old 09-29-2013, 06:18 PM
 
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Wow. You really are economically illiterate.

Multiplier (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
economic illeterate would be linking to a source which puts a lot of emphasis into keynesia economics, consider we havent practiced keynesia for DECADES...

You do know that Keynesian economics counts on surpluses, right?
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