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Old 11-20-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I could see Nevada reverting back to sanity in the future. Many of the SoCal transplants (of which I am one) have left, or will be leaving. The economy here is still pretty bad, and it's driving people out. I'm not predicting anything, just positing that it may not be as solidly blue as you think.
That seems to be the case, also one we start clamping down on illegal immigrants this state will once again be Sane.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Look--I'm sorry but I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say. English, please.
Progressive statist, a Statist is a person who wants the government to have more and more power until it has all power, and Progressives are far leftist (Socialist, Communist, Marxist, ect) Who Progressively limit your choices, wealth, prosperity, rights, liberties, and freedoms, and progress the power of the state, read liberty and tyannny.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Progressive statist, a Statist is a person who wants the government to have more and more power until it has all power, and Progressives are far leftist (Socialist, Communist, Marxist, ect) Who Progressively limit your choices, wealth, prosperity, rights, liberties, and freedoms, and progress the power of the state, read liberty and tyannny.
Statist ideologies also exist on the far right as well. Visit most backwoods rural counties in the USA today.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Statist ideologies also exist on the far right as well. Visit most backwoods rural counties in the USA today.
Yes it does, that being said it is very lop sided with leftist ideologies.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Yes it does, that being said it is very lop sided with leftist ideologies.
No, just another form of statism. Not enough of a focus on education yields a continuous out-migration of talented people from those places and they take money, resources, talent, and children out. That means the tax base has a hard time recovering or attracting employers into the area making the people more dependent on whatever is left unless they become self-employed... Also, younger people are bolting to all urban areas at an extremely fast rate. The demographics of most rural places in the US is trending older at an accelerated pace. Very few things will change statist trends except accelerated declines in jobs as most states often forget about many of these far flung rural areas.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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No, just another form of statism. Not enough of a focus on education yields a continuous out-migration of talented people from those places and they take money, resources, talent, and children out. That means the tax base has a hard time recovering or attracting employers into the area making the people more dependent on whatever is left unless they become self-employed... Also, younger people are bolting to all urban areas at an extremely fast rate. The demographics of most rural places in the US is trending older at an accelerated pace. Very few things will change statist trends except accelerated declines in jobs as most states often forget about many of these far flung rural areas.
That and the increasing of taxes, high rates, or moronic laws the infringed about rights.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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Statist ideologies also exist on the far right as well. Visit most backwoods rural counties in the USA today.
You have no idea what a statist is.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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Yes it does, that being said it is very lop sided with leftist ideologies.
That's a new one. In most rural white areas at least 60% of the electorate is Republican. They are statist though since the are dependent on SS, Medicare, Tricare, VA, Snap, farm subsidies, and a redistribution of taxes from cities to rural area. This is the strength of the Tea Party but since most are on the way out after 2020 no one will be listening to them.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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You have no idea what a statist is.
Yes, I know what a statist is... I have an excellent understanding of population dynamics and demography.

Two different definitions of statism could exist:
1) Statism through politics and the results of political implications via changes in taxes.
2) Statism through demographics and ancillary decline in business- a loss in tax base and/or population.

The two can be directly related, but in some cases they are not...
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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That's a new one. In most rural white areas at least 60% of the electorate is Republican. They are statist though since the are dependent on SS, Medicare, Tricare, VA, Snap, farm subsidies, and a redistribution of taxes from cities to rural area. This is the strength of the Tea Party but since most are on the way out after 2020 no one will be listening to them.
Many of those areas have job loses and a brain drain- so the core strength of the rural Republican base will continue to shift to the low population areas of the Great Plains and Mountain West where social conservatives rule.
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