So if not Obamacare, then what instead? (unemployment, drugs, abortions)
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I hear a lot of passionate opposition to the plan, but I hear nothing about alternative proposals. That goes for this forum as well as the Republicans.
Do you really favor a status quo where you quickly lose access to healthcare if your employer fires you; where 50 million remain uninsured who we all pay top dollar for when they end up in the ER given no preventative care; where insurance companies can drop your coverage when you need it most; where costs have already been skyrocketing for a long time; and where we lead the advanced world in cost per capita and get mediocre quality of life results in return?
I'm open to something else, but I don't think "just go back to the way it was" is sustainable. So...what is that "something else?"
The problem is that this is not the kind of a market where each participant can just bear the full cost of their consumption by themselves; by its very nature, costs need to somehow be shared between the healthy and the sick. That is the essence of the insurance concept. You need some sort of a comprehensive solution, because everyone is in the healthcare market, whether they like it or not.
If Republicans offered a clear, comprehensive solution that addressed cost, quality, and coverage, I could perhaps get behind it. It seems that all they are implying is "we don't care who has health insurance; every man, woman, and child for him/herself. All we care is that there is no Obamacare."
Actually, in terms of legislation... there were literally scores of comprehensive programs introduced, either as substitutes for sections, or substitutes entirely.
*During* the 41 votes? Really?
Show me, please. Links would be ideal, if you could provide them.
Oh my! How did people go to the doctors before the government decided to run the healthcare in this country, I wonder....! That can't be possible. The government is the savior!!!
What aspects of healthcare is government running?
Let's compare this to the rest of the developed world that has true government universal healthcare. Their healthcare costs are a fraction of the costs in the U.S. who is substantially less involved in healthcare beyond protecting lobbies.
I think as a civilzed society, that I prefer not seeing people that are sick suffering and dying due to lack of health care. Reguardless of anyone's opinion like yours, people are not going to be denied services at an ER. Trust me, I pay for it every year on my property tax though the hospital district. Not only that, my increased insurance premiums are paying for it. A better managed system through something like ACA gets people paying in some money, and will take the burden off my paid for insurance and off my hospital district tax.
Repealing the ACA is going to do little to stop health cares cost from rising at the Federal level you are still left with Medicare, Tricare, and VA all entitlements and Medicaid a welfare program. Those four programs already consume about 1 trillion dollars. So you cut off 1/10 th of it with ACA which will actually only lower spending about 1.5% on all health care costs. Anybody who talks about cutting ACA without talking at all about Medicare is ignoring the gorilla in the room.
People concerned about the deficit should be talking about reigning in all the entitlements. As an example the real cost of Medicare Part b and D is about $500 yet Medicare recipients unless they are very wealthy only pay $133.
If they have the notion it's the government's job to save them, yes, and the sooner, the better.
How very Christian of you.
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Demagoguery at its finest!
