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The problem with that is that those who don't contribute will benefit from those that do not. The ACA is not a free program for those that sign up. I want people that don't have insurance and that are currently using hospital ER's for their health care on my taxpayer dime to sign up for ACA insurance and start paying like I do. The way I see it, the ACA is forcing people to be more responsible for their healthcare. I know too many people that can afford to get insurance, but don't and use the ER like it's their person free healthcare. For those that don't like the ACA because it's the "government" mandating it, well so be it. If you can opt out individually and you have a wreck or accident, then that in my mind is just another person I'm paying for to get treated at a hospital.
I think we need a food program. No one needs to go hungry. I think everyone should have Food Insurance. Everyone MUST buy it, in order for it to work. Therefore, it MUST be mandated by government.
With Food Insurance, if you ever run out of food (natural disaster, unemployment) you can get free food.
Oh, wait. Forget all that. We already have it. It's called Food Stamps. We all pay for it through our taxes, which are higher because of it.
I hear a lot of passionate opposition to the plan, but I hear nothing about alternative proposals. That goes for this forum as well as the Republicans.
Do you really favor a status quo where you quickly lose access to healthcare if your employer fires you; where 50 million remain uninsured who we all pay top dollar for when they end up in the ER given no preventative care; where insurance companies can drop your coverage when you need it most; where costs have already been skyrocketing for a long time; and where we lead the advanced world in cost per capita and get mediocre quality of life results in return?
I'm open to something else, but I don't think "just go back to the way it was" is sustainable. So...what is that "something else?"
The problem is that this is not the kind of a market where each participant can just bear the full cost of their consumption by themselves; by its very nature, costs need to somehow be shared between the healthy and the sick. That is the essence of the insurance concept. You need some sort of a comprehensive solution, because everyone is in the healthcare market, whether they like it or not.
If Republicans offered a clear, comprehensive solution that addressed cost, quality, and coverage, I could perhaps get behind it. It seems that all they are implying is "we don't care who has health insurance; every man, woman, and child for him/herself. All we care is that there is no Obamacare."
"So if not Obamacare, then what instead?"
How about the fed stay out of our doctors offices and hospital rooms.
Isn't one of the lefts favorite slogans for the gov't to stay out of our bedrooms?
Why should health care insurance be any different.
85% of all Americans have health insurance through their employer. The really [poor should be able to get Medicaid. Oh wait they can already.
1. Single payer with a national sales tax that only covers preventitive and generic drugs. Run it as a independant agency that is self funded. ( like post office) open books for total costs and a national renewal vote every 4-8 yrs. umbrella hospital coverage to be sold by insurance companies.
2. Keep things the way they were before ACA but lower the income limits on medicaid to cover those who cant afford their own health care plan.
How about the fed stay out of our doctors offices and hospital rooms.
Isn't one of the lefts favorite slogans for the gov't to stay out of our bedrooms?
Why should health care insurance be any different.
85% of all Americans have health insurance through their employer. The really [poor should be able to get Medicaid. Oh wait they can already.
Well that is a problem for both parties getting involved in what goes on between a patient and doctor. There are many states requiring medically unneeded ultrasounds for women getting abortions. I think the ACA is addressing those that make too much to be on medicaid but don't have insurance through their employers.
There is ONLY one purpose for any country to exist, which to defend the individual rights and freedoms from encroachment, or from compulsion by any group or majority or minority.
Seems the rest of the developed world sooner or later determined that healthcare was a basic human right worthy of incorporation into their constitution.
85% of all Americans have health insurance through their employer.
Wrong. Only 46% of Americans have health insurance through their employer.
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The really [poor should be able to get Medicaid. Oh wait they can already.
Medicaid, along with military benefits and Medicare, covers an additional 25% of Americans. This leaves 17% uninsured. That's 53 million people. And you think that's an insignificant number?
Well that is a problem for both parties getting involved in what goes on between a patient and doctor. There are many states requiring medically unneeded ultrasounds for women getting abortions. I think the ACA is addressing those that make too much to be on medicaid but don't have insurance through their employers.
21 states have refused to allow the Medicaid expansion. Guess what they all have in common.
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