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Not trying to be argumentative at all. But liberals are always saying that the stock market has nothing to do with the economy and the president, but now Obama is responsible? Interesting. As for housing, going up slowly after diving tremendously is hardly an improvement. And Iraq? That was just Obama holding to Bush's timeline.
For the record, I disagree with all of it.
You are not comprehending the topic.
Why is it so difficult?
It has nothing to do with crediting Obama or someone else. The question is simple: which things are better today than in Jan 2009. Nothing to do with assigning credit.
I listed five things, and you argue they are NOT better today.
You are saying:
1. Stock market today is NOT better
2. Housing is NOT better
3. We did NOT pull out of Iraq, and are NOT in process of pulling out of Afghanistan
4. We are NOT on path to becoming a larger oil producer.
5. Our image in the world is NOT better
It has nothing to do with crediting Obama or someone else. The question is simple: which things are better today than in Jan 2009. Nothing to do with assigning credit.
I listed five things, and you argue they are NOT better today.
You are saying:
1. Stock market today is NOT better
2. Housing is NOT better
3. We did NOT pull out of Iraq, and are NOT in process of pulling out of Afghanistan
4. We are NOT on path to becoming a larger oil producer.
5. Our image in the world is NOT better
1. Yes. But it's a bubble. Let's see how it does without money being pumped in by the feds.
2. I don't think it's better.
3. We're out of Iraq, but it's not better there. And until we are out of Afghanistan, I'm saying we're still in.
4. No we are not. Again, pure speculation.
5. Definitely not.
Thank goodness bush's policies started working....
If obama is not going to accept responsiblity for anything 2009...why should anyone give him job creation?
Obama does accept responsiblity. He accepts responsibility for anything that ends up working. He claims credit for anything that improves, and blames Bush and obstructionist Republicans for anything that doesn't.
The claim you responded to was about Obama. It mentioned him and only him. Obama is responsible for federal employees. So I didn't flip it. Sorry, you can't wriggle your way out of it. You were wrong.
Finn is really off his game today. Not that he's ever particularly "on" his game, but you get the idea.. I'm going to ignore him for the rest of the day. I don't have time to deal with brick walls today.
It has nothing to do with crediting Obama or someone else. The question is simple: which things are better today than in Jan 2009. Nothing to do with assigning credit.
I listed five things, and you argue they are NOT better today.
You are saying:
1. Stock market today is NOT better
2. Housing is NOT better
3. We did NOT pull out of Iraq, and are NOT in process of pulling out of Afghanistan
4. We are NOT on path to becoming a larger oil producer.
5. Our image in the world is NOT better
For a moment, lets assume all of those things are true.
Who gets the credit, Finn? We all know you're angling to assign credit to Obama, although you say you're not. So, please, tell us who gets the credit for these things?
I give up. You're just not paying attention, I guess.
I added a simple statement about the importance of how you look when you finish, but apparentlyit went over your head. Maybe you woud understand if you thought about itin football terms. A team might hang in there for three quarters keeping thescore tied and hopes alive, but then they allow the opponenets score 30 morepoints in the 4th quarter, and the end result is a disaster. This iswhat happened with “W” presidency. It means nothing that the numbers were okfor seven years, when the end result is a disaster.
Well, I would refute all the fascist posts directed to me but they will just get modded away. I have already had about six responses deleted.
Our healthcare system was a JOKE prior to Obama fixing. It is one of his crowning achievements and I don't expect the right wing mouth breathers on this board to comprehend that.
Mouth breathers? As opposed to the anal breathers in the Obama admin?
For a moment, lets assume all of those things are true.
Who gets the credit, Finn?
It is irrelevant to the topic. Like I stated earlier, debating about who gets credit or the blame is an endless and fruitless effort. For your information I would never give president credit or blame for everything that goes on. That is a very naive and partisan attitude and we see way too much of that these days, especially here on CD.
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