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Old 01-02-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I'm not one on here defending our system but I've known many people who got
cancer and I don't know of a single one that was cut off from coverage
. I don't
doubt that one could find examples but I'm pretty sure they aren't countless.
I do. My American mother in law, for one. She died fighting the insurance company which refused to pay for her breast cancer treatment. Furthermore, I worked in palliative care in the US. Many of those people had been cut off.
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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A 20 year old's 2 day $55,00 hospital bill for appendicitis has gone viral around the world - a world that shakes it head and comments in disbelief.

The original bill of $55,000 was reduced to 'only' $11,000 because he was covered by his Dad's insurance.

A 20 Year-Old Got Appendicitis and This Was His Hospital Bill
I'm not sure I understand. A team of professionals in a very expensive facility performed life saving surgery. Is he saying his life isn't worth $11k? Maybe he should have tried the do-it-yourself approach with an Exacto knife and tequila.
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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I do. My American mother in law, for one. She died fighting the insurance company which refused to pay for her breast cancer treatment. Furthermore, I worked in palliative care in the US. Many of those people had been cut off.
My uncle had someone he worked with who reached her "lifetime cap" and was completely cut off from insurance (I think this was sometime in the 1990's). I'm not sure what happened to her, but these are the stories are right wing friends don't wish to talk about.
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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Maybe he should have tried the do-it-yourself approach with an Exacto knife and tequila.
I'm sure many neo-cons would love people resorting to these sorts of methods. What a sick mentality to have.
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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he big winners in the picture are not the providers, or the people they provide care to - it's the INSURANCE COMPANIES. In other words, Big Business. And the ACA just gave them a ton of business. Why am I not surprised though? Politicians and Big Business have been in bed together since the dawn of time - and it doesn't matter which party it is.
This is one big thing many of us "left wing liberals" were pointing out repeatedly while our conservative friends were going on and on about how Obamacare is "socialist". And again, why many of us would have preferred true universal healthcare like every other civilized Western democracy...though we'll still take the ACA over the previous "let them die" profits-over-people system.
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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My uncle had someone he worked with who reached her "lifetime cap" and was completely cut off from insurance (I think this was sometime in the 1990's). I'm not sure what happened to her, but these are the stories are right wing friends don't wish to talk about.
My MIL didn't reach a lifetime cap. The insurance company dug and dug and finally found a reason to deny payment.
"Aha! You failed to tell us that you were depressed after your husband died, so we regret to inform you that we will no longer pay. Good luck."
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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My MIL didn't reach a lifetime cap. The insurance company dug and dug and finally found a reason to deny payment.
"Aha! You failed to tell us that you were depressed after your husband died, so we regret to inform you that we will no longer pay. Good luck."
Yup...we already had "death panels" that people like Sarah Palin were blathering on about...we just called them "insurance companies" instead.
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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I do. My American mother in law, for one. She died fighting the insurance company which refused to pay for her breast cancer treatment. Furthermore, I worked in palliative care in the US. Many of those people had been cut off.
Thousands and thousands are treated every year for breast cancer. Why is it out of all the thousands treated your mother in law gets singled out?
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:58 PM
 
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Yup...we already had "death panels" that people like Sarah Palin were blathering on about...we just called them "insurance companies" instead.
We still have them. We will always have them. Any and all plans anywhere have them.
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Old 01-02-2014, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Thousands and thousands are treated every year for breast cancer. Why is it out of all the thousands treated your mother in law gets singled out?
How the hell should I know? I'm sure there are others. They said she lied on her insurance application, where she said she didn't have a history of depression. Maybe they would have paid if she had jumped for joy at her husband's passing.
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