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Old 02-22-2014, 07:01 PM
 
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If you believe that life is a gift from god, you cannot have the opinion that man can take that life at the same time.

A consistent view is god is the only one who gives life and god is the only one who can take it away.
This again????
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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The OP is dead on. One cannot be "pro-life" yet support taking life even from the worst.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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The OP is dead on. One cannot be "pro-life" yet support taking life even from the worst.
If that is true then the opposite is true. You can't be anti death penalty and be pro abortion.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:46 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The death penalty is for serious wrong doing. An unborn child obviously can't have done that. Your "consistency" argument is absurd.
No one ever claimed leftists were very bright.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Houston
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No one ever claimed leftists were very bright.
Yep, dumber than a mildly retarded rock.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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No, it's not about punishment. It's about personal responsibility. You can call it a fetus all day but that doesn't change the fact that it is a life. Birth control failure is rare, but when it does happen you have a child. Here is a novel concept for you to consider... It's called abstinence. Don't want to have a child, don't have sex. That is guaranteed 100% effective as birth control.. No, a woman should not have the right to be an executioner and with abortion that is exactly what she is. She had the opportunity to NOT get pregnant but rather than be a responsible individual she chooses to kill an unborn child...
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I'm not sure how the Palin family got involved in this, but which one had an abortion? While it is true that some people are going to have sex regardless, there are those who actually do take the responsible action of abstaining until they are ready to have children. Those who don't should accept the responsibility of not taking appropriate steps to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. It all comes down to personal responsibility.. I understand that this is not a concept that many people employ.
saying yes to sex is not saying yes to pregnancy and raising a child for 18 years. yes a woman has every right to be an executioner" over her own reproduction. abortion is taking responsibility. no woman, no matter if she agrees to sex or not should have to remain pregnant and give birth, raise or adopt out a child against her will.

abstinence is great for the very few who follow it. for most adults it is not feasible. a married woman who has all the children she can afford or getting older and shouldn't have anymore should never not have to have sex on the off chance she will get pregnant. the idea is just stupid.

women are sexual beings and will have sex, as they should. it's called choice and as you have pointed out, some take their pregnancy to term.

I seems counter productive to say the least that you would want irresponsible people having children they don't want. every child should be born into a wanted and loving home. not be born because other people want to put their morality on others.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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saying yes to sex is not saying yes to pregnancy and raising a child for 18 years. yes a woman has every right to be an executioner" over her own reproduction. abortion is taking responsibility. no woman, no matter if she agrees to sex or not should have to remain pregnant and give birth, raise or adopt out a child against her will.

abstinence is great for the very few who follow it. for most adults it is not feasible. a married woman who has all the children she can afford or getting older and shouldn't have anymore should never not have to have sex on the off chance she will get pregnant. the idea is just stupid.

women are sexual beings and will have sex, as they should. it's called choice and as you have pointed out, some take their pregnancy to term.

I seems counter productive to say the least that you would want irresponsible people having children they don't want. every child should be born into a wanted and loving home. not be born because other people want to put their morality on others.
This is the 21st century. There are a vast number of ways of preventing pregnancy. Every grade school child is educated in preventing pregnancy and yet there have been literally millions of children executed due to a lack of consideration. It's time people start taking responsibility for their actions. Abortion is NOT a means of birth control. Abortion is the taking of a life. There is no difference between an abortion and a willful murder of a child.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:11 PM
 
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This is the 21st century. There are a vast number of ways of preventing pregnancy. Every grade school child is educated in preventing pregnancy and yet there have been literally millions of children executed due to a lack of consideration. It's time people start taking responsibility for their actions. Abortion is NOT a means of birth control. Abortion is the taking of a life. There is no difference between an abortion and a willful murder of a child.
the law disagrees with you. it is also non of your business how a woman takes care of her own reproductive life.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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the law disagrees with you. it is also non of your business how a woman takes care of her own reproductive life.
Laws change. They have in the past and they will in the future.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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Laws change. They have in the past and they will in the future.
even when abortion has been illegal it did not stop it from happening.
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