Lerner pleads the 5th....again....so much for getting to the truth (legal, lawyer)

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

No, the purpose of the applicable part of the 5th amendment is to prevent one from incriminating ones self.

And I quote

"..., nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be witness against himself..."

Note the bolded part.

Testifying before Congress isnt a criminal case... Historians' argument is ridiculous

[Tilt11]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

She says she did nothing wrong and we don't believe her.

She says she is getting death threats and we don't believe her.

Since when do you need immunity if you did nothing wrong?

And how are people supposed to believe her when she refuses to speak without immunity and some emails are being withheld?

And why did this wench ask for a week to prepare and then say she isnt going to speak?

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

That's because there actually is no argument about immunity.

If Issa want's to get around Lerhner's access to the 5th Amendment, then he has to offer immunity.

Simple as that.

Immunity from what if there is no crime?

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

She says she did nothing wrong and we don't believe her.

She says she is getting death threats and we don't believe her.

I would suggest that she probably cares not one whit whether or not you believe her.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by Tilt11

Since when do you need immunity if you did nothing wrong?

And how are people supposed to believe her when she refuses to speak without immunity and some emails are being withheld?

And why did this wench ask for a week to prepare and then say she isnt going to speak?

Because obama's administration is pulling her strings making her dance.

She feel in line is all. Just wait for the executive privilege nonsense to keep the corruption secret.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Immunity from what if there is no crime?

Who cares? If Issa wants the testimony, he knows how to get it.

If he doesn't want it, he doesn't.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

I would suggest that she probably cares not one whit whether or not you believe her.

I agree, it sounds like she cares about making sure she isnt prosecuted for actions she is being asked to testify about.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Who cares? If Issa wants the testimony, he knows how to get it.

If he doesn't want it, he doesn't.

You didnt respond to the coment, why not? The thread isnt about Issa..

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Note the bolded part.

Testifying before Congress isnt a criminal case... Historians' argument is ridiculous

LOL... what are you hallucinating is the point you are making? Who has argued that the 5th Amendment has anything to do with civil cases?

Again... you guys really do not think very hard.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by pghquest

You didnt respond to the coment, why not?

On this planet, "Who cares?" actually is a response.

Originally Posted by pghquest

The thread isnt about Issa..

Of course it is. Don't be obtuse.