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well very liberal new mexico..mosytly liberal Nevada,, mostly liberal new jesery ...and what is it about
TAXES, and FEES
dealerships COLLECT EXTRA taxes(on top of sales tax) and fees for the STATE
The last time I bought a vehicle from a dealer, they threw on a "State Mandated Documentation Fee" of $300+.
and don't forget:
•Destination Fee - This is a significant charge which you will have to pay on any new car purchase. It is normally in excess of $600 depending on the vehicle.
•DMV Fees - These charges are necessary to register your vehicle with the DMV. They will be the same for all vehicles and will not be included in the price quote.
•State Sales Tax - This is usually not included in the price quote and will vary by state.....The states that have no sales tax at all on their car sales are among the following: Alaska, Delaware, Montana and New Hampshire
•Dealer-Installed Accessories - These are usually not included in the price quote unless you ask for the price of a specific vehicle rather than a base new car. aka "Dealer Prep" (which includes installing the hubcaps)
•Advertising Fees:
•Guaranteed Auto Protection (GAP) insurance: A must for leased vehicles. It covers the difference between your payments over the life of the lease and the residual value of the vehicle in case it is stolen or totaled in an accident.
•Extended warranty:
some things the dealer will OFFER and can easily ADD to total sale.....might or might not see it from a manufacturer:
•Pinstriping:....
•Rustproofing/undercoating:.....
•VIN etching:.... This is an anti-theft measure in which the vehicle identification number (VIN) is etched into the glass. Some states require that dealers offer it to you,
•Fabric protection:.......
•Paint sealant:.....
•Security/anti-theft system:.....
and if the dealer is the financier : (this is Texas)If you are a dealer who offers consumers contracts to finance sales, you must be licensed(cost) by the Office of the Consumer Credit Commissioner. You must apply for and hold a permit(cost) from the Comptroller’s Office.
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New Jersey has joined Texas and Arizona,Nevada and New Mexico in trying to force Tesla to sell through Car dealerships. All five states will now lose out on the chance of new jobs and a 5 billion dollar factory. Michigan could use it though. New Jersey To Tesla: You're Outta Here - Forbes
Honestly, I'm not sure that there are states that allow vehicles to be sold other than through dealers. At the least, I'm not aware of any. All part of the big-government "nanny state" concept of "consumer protection". Can you picture the outrage of someone bought their $100,000 Tesla "golf cart" through Amazon, got it home and had a problem with it...and then figured out that there was no one around to service the vehicle or do warranty work for 500 miles? I don't agree with that law BTW, I figure idiots should be able to make their own mistakes and learn from them. But I hardly think it's a Republican vs. Democrat thing. In case no one noticed...NJ is a highly left-leaning state and has voted Democratic for decades. Yes, they finally voted in a R governor when the mess Dems left just got TOO deep, but still, most of the rest of the state legislature, and certainly the federal ones, are heavily Dem.
Another example on how Republicans aren't anymore free market than Democrats and in many ways they are even more restrictive. Whatever happened to supporting free markets?!
People like Christie occupy the mushy, moderate middle, because they are nothing more then liberal, progressive, big government democrats on many issues.
I wonder how much this franchise model adds to the price of a new car? How much we pay the middle men who practically does nothing except for adding "dealer package" to the price of a new car, dealer package that is pretty much a pin stripe at $500 a pop. That's extortion.
Dealers should be making money on used cars and repairs, both warranty and after warranty.
Do you buy your corn flakes at the Kellogs store or through a middleman? Your television? Etc. Its a pretty common business model.
Do you buy your corn flakes at the Kellogs store or through a middleman? Your television? Etc. Its a pretty common business model.
exactly
until Tesla has LOCAL dealerships/maintenance shops how are they going to fix """DEALER ONLY""" problems......are you going to have to ship you Tesla car to California or japan just for a repair???
until Tesla has LOCAL dealerships/maintenance shops how are they going to fix """DEALER ONLY""" problems......are you going to have to ship you Tesla car to California or japan just for a repair???
They do actually have Service Centers at multiple places throughout the country
until Tesla has LOCAL dealerships/maintenance shops how are they going to fix """DEALER ONLY""" problems......are you going to have to ship you Tesla car to California or japan just for a repair???
I wondered also but if you read their set up they are not selling cars anywhere until they first build a repair facility. Indeed this would concern me if I wanted a vehicle I could take very far but if you understanding the limitations the state shouldn't have any say IMO.
This will cause slow growth but its also not up to the state how fast one builds their business.
It's my business how I buy my cornflakes but there is no law preventing Kellogg's to open a store in my neighborhood, unlike GM or Ford that are explicitly prohibited by law from doing so.
Most people bought Dell computers without stepping a foot in the store.
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Originally Posted by pknopp
Do you buy your corn flakes at the Kellogs store or through a middleman? Your television? Etc. Its a pretty common business model.
It's my business how I buy my cornflakes but there is no law preventing Kellogg's to open a store in my neighborhood, unlike GM or Ford that are explicitly prohibited by law from doing so.
Most people bought Dell computers without stepping a foot in the store.
The reasons for the law in Ford or GM's case have been noted. I will also add that its a huge consumer protection law. If dealers decide to quit servicing these cars because the manufacturer undercuts them they are in a world of hurt.
But your complaint was about middlemen making a profit. As noted that is a very common business model. GM cant afford to open 600 outlets to replace dealers. (Or whatever the number is)l
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