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Old 03-20-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh....another "crap" plan with nothing to back up what was stated....

And a typical leftist response...I have no clue, but if I jack up the numbers it will look more impressive when I lie...
No actual facts. Which predictably cause your head to explode. The ACA explicitly limits out of pocket maximums if you have insurance which is to say that past a certain amount per beneficiary per year you cannot be made to pay any more.

 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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As the midterm elections near, stay tuned for more democrat sponsored "stories" (like the one above) about the wonderful benefits of Obamacare. All of the issues regarding higher costs, people losing thier insurance, and patients losing thier doctors will be silenced in the media.

This is like "1984"- we have a media that has become a propaganda unit for Obama.
To be fair most of the media spots I have seen come out are Republican sponsored about how horrible Obamacare is. Often thought the people featured in them are too lazy to get insurance because they don't want to use a website, or are lying about their coverage.

Either way most of the Obamacare ads are from the right.
 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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No actual facts. Which predictably cause your head to explode. The ACA explicitly limits out of pocket maximums if you have insurance which is to say that past a certain amount per beneficiary per year you cannot be made to pay any more.
You mean they really had a $500,000 deductiable? That is what you said....



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Under Obamacare the Out of pocket maximum you can be charged is capped regardless of the plan. Its not like the scam insurance that existed before with something like a $10,000 maximum coverage or
a $500,000 deductable
.

So, basically....you stated somehting false and then provided nothing to back up the story?

Yes, maximum out of pocket expense...what was it prior and what is it now? that's called deductibale..right...
 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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To be fair most of the media spots I have seen come out are Republican sponsored about how horrible Obamacare is. Often thought the people featured in them are too lazy to get insurance because they don't want to use a website, or are lying about their coverage.

Either way most of the Obamacare ads are from the right.
COme on man.....did you not hear...dirty hary reid stated that EVERY single story that is bad about ocare is a complete lie....
 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:35 AM
 
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So we find ONE person saving the $2500 a year Obama said would be saved and you think its a success..
 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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Well, it is a fiscally conservative law started by conservatives.

Good thing progressives weren't foolish enough to believe the right-wing noise machine.
No its not, continue to lie because everytime you blame the GOP for this POS, you admit is a POS..
 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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Under Obamacare the Out of pocket maximum you can be charged is capped regardless of the plan. Its not like the scam insurance that existed before with something like a $10,000 maximum coverage or a $500,000 deductable.
Oh child.. The only people who had high deductibles like that were called catastrophic policies, and they usuallyhad seperate policies which took them up to the limit...
 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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You mean they really had a $500,000 deductiable? That is what you said....
No that is an actual insurance plan that existed before Obamacare. It was marketed principally to college students and was essentially a way of cheating your way around the insurance requirement.

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So, basically....you stated somehting false and then provided nothing to back up the story?

Yes, maximum out of pocket expense...what was it prior and what is it now? that's called deductibale..right...[/quote]

There was no prior out of pocket maximum that is part of the ACA. On the other hand there were much more common lifetime maximums which mean that you were SOL in terms of any insurance if you hit them. Basically it was an insurance company death panel of sorts for disabled people who required long term expensive medical treatment.
 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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Oh child.. The only people who had high deductibles like that were called catastrophic policies, and they usuallyhad seperate policies which took them up to the limit...
Generally the people who bought them were students trying to meet a health care coverage requirement at universities, the very poor who could only afford that, and idiots who only looked at price and ignored everything else.

It wasn't just folks with seperate policies.
 
Old 03-20-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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No that is an actual insurance plan that existed before Obamacare. It was marketed principally to college students and was essentially a way of cheating your way around the insurance requirement.

There was no prior out of pocket maximum that is part of the ACA. On the other hand there were much more common lifetime maximums which mean that you were SOL in terms of any insurance if you hit them. Basically it was an insurance company death panel of sorts for disabled people who required long term expensive medical treatment.
And this maximum out of pocket added to the cost of insurance and made them go up, but Obama said policies woudl drop $2500 PER FAMILY..

Are you still waiting for the savings? You stand here and make all sorts of excuses and outright lie just like he did, but that doesnt make it anymore affordable to most.
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