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Old 04-17-2014, 08:29 AM
 
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Interesting how the left-wing crowd convinces itself that it's not Obama's administrative, tax or regulatory policies that are killing jobs for these people.
the jobs were disappearing , and wages stagnating, long before obama took office
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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lol ... that's what i'm saying

you blame "Obama and Pelosi" for illegal immigration..

but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
Not everyone is a partisan hack, who live in those glass houses because they've hitched their wagon to a political party, or politician.

I can't speak for the person you responded to, but conservatives have been opposed to the refusal by the politicians in both parties to rein in illegal immigration, and they've demanded our federal government protect our borders and enforce our laws.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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the jobs were disappearing , and wages stagnating, long before obama took office
Long before? Don't play ignorant with me. We had 4-5% UE under Bush, and Obama has had almost six years of his policies in place, and he has blown $7 trillion in new deficit spending with NOTHING to show for it.

Do not act as if this horrible economy existed "long before" Obama came to Washington.

Psssst, you fools elected him BECAUSE you claimed he would turn the economy around. But now that it's only gotten worse, you act as you never thought Obama was actually going to accomplish anything or solve any problems at all.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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The Republican governor of NV has now publicly come out and said Republicans in Congress cutting off unemployment insurance was a mistake and he's calling on his own party to reverse course and restore unemployment insurance benefits to their previous level.

First GOP Governor Calls On Boehner To Extend Unemployment Benefits
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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A vast generalization and vast generalizations are never good arguments. Capital gains are also reinvested in commodities raising the price of those commodities which gives people less to spend which costs us jobs.

All income should be taxed exactly the same way. Income is income.
I agree with your second statement, but some income is taxed more than once, and that isn't right.

I've often wondered how many times the government taxes the same dollar? Mulitple times, when you think about it, but I haven't seen an itemized account anywhere.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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Long before? Don't play ignorant with me. We had 4-5% UE under Bush, and Obama has had almost six years of his policies in place, and he has blown $7 trillion in new deficit spending with NOTHING to show for it.
The current unemployment rate is almost exactly the same as 2007 when Bush was President so you need to stop lying.

U.S. jobless claims hover near pre-recession levels | Reuters
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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"throwing stones", in this context, means attacking and/or blaming others.
They aren't pushing for this?
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:03 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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The current unemployment rate is almost exactly the same as 2007 when Bush was President so you need to stop lying.

U.S. jobless claims hover near pre-recession levels | Reuters
What was workforce participation in 2007 as opposed to today?

Here I'll help you:

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the military telling only part of the story is called quibbling.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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Not everyone is a partisan hack, who live in those glass houses because they've hitched their wagon to a political party, or politician.

I can't speak for the person you responded to, but conservatives have been opposed to the refusal by the politicians in both parties to rein in illegal immigration, and they've demanded our federal government protect our borders and enforce our laws.
But they do continue to vote for those who ignore your pleas.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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I agree with your second statement, but some income is taxed more than once, and that isn't right.

I've often wondered how many times the government taxes the same dollar? Mulitple times, when you think about it, but I haven't seen an itemized account anywhere.
I'm no expert but I'd need examples and context to determine whether you have a point here or not. The article doesn't.
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