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Old 04-23-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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Someone tell me why you have to have general anesthesia for a colonoscopy. Why not a local?
To be relaxed.
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Old 04-23-2014, 05:32 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Someone tell me why you have to have general anesthesia for a colonoscopy. Why not a local?
My guess is the physician expected a more invasive procedure or physician / patient decision based on current and/or previous medical conditions.

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Old 04-23-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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To be relaxed.
Much like wisdom teeth extraction the docs request patients to undergo it because the medical staff for someone reason feels it's necessary and they get more money for it. However a general anesthesia is often unnecessary and they tend to pair the general with a muscle relaxant. Which leads to a nasty issue if the person either doesn't receive the anesthesia, didn't receive enough or due to the patient's biology the anesthesia wears off. So what occurs with the muscle relaxant is the patient cannot communicate with the staff that they are aware of what is going on.

Imagine someone cutting into you and you being able to feel it. This has happened to people and the doctors refused to believe it had occurred until the patient told the doctors what she or he had heard and seen while supposedly unconscious.

Since I tend to wear off pain medications pretty quickly I request a local. I will never have a general unless absolutely needed and demand they keep an arm unaffected so I can slap one of the doctors if I become aware during the surgery.

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Old 04-23-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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FAIRFAX, Va. (CN) - Doctors mocked an unconscious colonoscopy patient, joking that he has syphilis and talking about firing a gun up his rectum, says a man whose cellphone allegedly captured audio of the entire affair.

Plaintiff D.B. sued Safe Sedation LLC and Safe Sedation Management in Fairfax County Court, alleging defamation and infliction of emotional distress.

Courthouse News Service

We talk all the time in the OR, but NEVER about the patient. I wonder where these guys trained?

That being said (at least in our state), it is illegal to "tape" conversations unless the person recording is a part of the conversation. This is why wire taps are illegal. I do not know Virginia law, but I really wonder how this could be entered as evidence.
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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Someone tell me why you have to have general anesthesia for a colonoscopy. Why not a local?
would you want your colon blown up like a balloon, and a camera stuck up there with only a local?
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:16 PM
 
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We talk all the time in the OR, but NEVER about the patient. I wonder where these guys trained?

That being said (at least in our state), it is illegal to "tape" conversations unless the person recording is a part of the conversation. This is why wire taps are illegal. I do not know Virginia law, but I really wonder how this could be entered as evidence.
This will be a civil action......not criminal.

More leeway is given when presenting evidence.

This will settle out of court.....most do.
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Absolutely disgusting and I hope the guy gets every penny he is suing for.

And how about this?

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In a final remark caught on tape, Ingham allegedly said she would make a note on
the man's file that he had hemorrhoids even though he didn't.
If the patient's medical records show that this was actually done.....that doctor should lose her medical license for falsifying medical records.

People shouldn't have to worry that they are putting their health, their very lives, into the hands of doctors who have the mentality of school yard bullies.

Not only do I think the doctors should be sued, I think their license to practice medicine should be suspended for a year.

........and during their year off, they should be required to complete some kind of sensitivity training course.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Very hard to believe since all electronics are generally not allowed into the procedure room and all instructions are given to the person who is there to drive the patient home along with all of the patients personal belongings with the exception of their clothing. All jewelry, dentures and electronics are not allowed into the actual procedure room from my experience being there with the patient who was having the procedure done.
I agree. This is a very suspicious article that raised a lot of questions in my mind.
Why was the patient given post-op instructions before the procedure was begun? Post-op instructions are given post-op, after a patient has fully come out of the anesthesia. It makes no sense to give them until then.

I underwent an emergency appendectomy last year. I was on the operating table so fast that they were skinning me out of the clothes I wore into the hospital while they were prepping me, but they were bagged and out of the surgery before I went under. I very seriously doubt they would have been left in the room while the surgery happened, as they were surely germy.

Doctors see patients who get faint at the sight of needles all the time. It's so common I really doubt they would spend any time commenting on it.

This whole thing sounds like it's entirely fictitious to me. I also believe that the 'attorney's mentioned in the article are either fictitious or know nothing at all about the case.

The same is true with the doctors. I'm certain that they either don't exist, or if they do, are not surgeons. Or possibly, not even doctors.

There is a part of folklore studies that are called Belief Tales. These tales are stories that are so outrageous that they MUST be true, because they are all based on some basic fear we all have. We are all afraid of surgery, so I'll bet that if anyone ever tries to track the story down, nothing factual will ever be found. These stories always grow as they go from person to person. Names are added and other details, which, at first hearing makes them seem increasing more authentic.

Some of these stories have circulated by word of mouth for decades or more. These days, the more common name for them is Urban Legends.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I agree. This is a very suspicious article that raised a lot of questions in my mind.
Why was the patient given post-op instructions before the procedure was begun? Post-op instructions are given post-op, after a patient has fully come out of the anesthesia. It makes no sense to give them until then.

I underwent an emergency appendectomy last year. I was on the operating table so fast that they were skinning me out of the clothes I wore into the hospital while they were prepping me, but they were bagged and out of the surgery before I went under. I very seriously doubt they would have been left in the room while the surgery happened, as they were surely germy.

Doctors see patients who get faint at the sight of needles all the time. It's so common I really doubt they would spend any time commenting on it.

This whole thing sounds like it's entirely fictitious to me. I also believe that the 'attorney's mentioned in the article are either fictitious or know nothing at all about the case.

The same is true with the doctors. I'm certain that they either don't exist, or if they do, are not surgeons. Or possibly, not even doctors.

There is a part of folklore studies that are called Belief Tales. These tales are stories that are so outrageous that they MUST be true, because they are all based on some basic fear we all have. We are all afraid of surgery, so I'll bet that if anyone ever tries to track the story down, nothing factual will ever be found. These stories always grow as they go from person to person. Names are added and other details, which, at first hearing makes them seem increasing more authentic.

Some of these stories have circulated by word of mouth for decades or more. These days, the more common name for them is Urban Legends.
This was a colonoscopy.....not an invasive surgery like an appendectomy that requires a completely sterile environment.

The patient probably put his phone in his pants pocket and his clothes were left in the procedure room.

Sounds perfectly plausible to me.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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What's the big frickin' deal, the guy was unconscious. I have to think that people that spend their days rotorooting people's butts have to find humor where ever they can.
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