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Old 05-02-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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Those quotes are coming from Buck McKeon who as his statement points out his committee "interviewed more than a dozen witnesses in the operational chain of command that night, yielding thousands of pages of transcripts, e-mails, and other documents." Those interviewed included Lovell's commander, the commander of AFRICOM. I think those in the chain of command are in a better position to know what actually occurred, especially when it is backed up by evidence.

What evidence is there that the State Department delayed the decision to deploy? The committee in the House responsible for knowing such things claims it never happened.

Here is what Susan Rice said on ABC, the other show transcripts are available at the same site.

Flashback: What Susan Rice Said About Benghazi - Washington Wire - WSJ

But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.
We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.


Her comments are very consistent with the CIA assessment. No spinning is required. Notice that the video connection comes from the connection to Cairo. The CIA linked Benghazi to Cairo.
Cairo was from the movie, Bengazi was from Cairo. Why Republicans lack the comprehension ability to understand that was what was said I will never know. And here a year and a half later they still can't comprehend words.
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Old 05-02-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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So he can speculate better than a Corporal could. It's still just speculation, offered after the fact at a moment when no bullets are flying.


It's kinda droll, you calling senior officials incompetent when yesterday you couldn't tell the difference between the Navy and the Marines. Forgive the rest of us if we consider your judgment on their competence less than compelling.
I told you I always make that mistake. I only know the AIR FORCE.

And he can give his expertise. That is why they are asking him questions.

Whose this "rest of us" you speak for everyone on the thread now?
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Old 05-02-2014, 03:32 PM
 
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The only people trying to "blame" anybody are the right-wing propagandists trying desperate;y to blame the President and Secretary Clinton. The CIA talking points are not blameworthy. They were a work in progress and simply a snapshot of the CIA doing its job at that moment.
Propaganda, to be effective, must be believed.
To be believed, it must be credible.
To be credible, it must be true. - Hubert Humphrey
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Old 05-02-2014, 04:00 PM
 
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He is entirely correct, and what little "spin" was put it was boilerplate "we are strong and patient" stuff that every administration uses.


The election was more important to Obama than truth, integrity, and the lives of Americans.
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Old 05-02-2014, 04:19 PM
 
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The election was more important to Obama than truth, integrity, and the lives of Americans.
I do not think Obama thought out the "commander in chief" part of his job very well.
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Old 05-02-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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That explains what the administration did when blaming a video..

It was beyond stupid, considering Obama wasnt responsible for the attacks. He should have just came out, and stated FACTS.. not trying to find an excuse for something that didnt need one.
Obama can't help himself, LYING comes naturally to him and accountability is never an issue.

So much for all his talk about transparency.
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Old 05-02-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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A burgalary that his own people perpetrated.

Do you guys think that the attack in Benghazi was sanctioned by Obama himself? No, at worst his staff put political spin on a current event.

There certainly not a lot of nuance in a lot of you guys, that's for sure.
And according to YOU Obama is not responsible for HIS staff's lies???

What kind of leadership and lack of accountability does that show?
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Wow, that's some faulty memory you have there. I remember it well because it was the best moment of the debate. Romney, all puffed up, thinking he was scoring big points, and Obama coolly responding, "Please proceed, Governor," allowing Romney to step in it up to his ankles. That was a great television moment.
I think we may have another "great television moment" when the truth now hits the fan. It may well be egg on Obama's face and Hillary may not be able to duck anymore.

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No one was intentionally abandoned and left to die a horrible death. You are just making that up.
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No American citizens were intentionally abandoned and left to die a horrible death.
Just because you repeat yourself doesn't make it so. What does it mean to give an order to "stand down"
in the face of the attack? Is that not intentional? Were those deaths not horrible?

Methinks thou dost protest way too much for what you call a "phony scandal".

See below, in case you missed this succinct post earlier:

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Propaganda, to be effective, must be believed.
To be believed, it must be credible.
To be credible, it must be true. - Hubert Humphrey
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Just because you repeat yourself doesn't make it so. What does it mean to give an order to "stand down"
in the face of the attack? Is that not intentional? Were those deaths not horrible?
No order to stand down was given at any time.

And the deaths were no more or less horrible than most other deaths.

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Methinks thou dost protest way too much for what you call a "phony scandal".
Projection. It's not just for theaters anymore.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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And according to YOU Obama is not responsible for HIS staff's lies???
To this moment, no one has demonstrated any lie on the part of the administration regarding the Benghazi attacks.

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What kind of leadership and lack of accountability does that show?
Since it is not true, it can hardly be a demonstration of anything.
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