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Old 05-05-2014, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I hope the increase goes through and I hope Sawant gets her way.
Then we'll see how it fares.
Other cities are interested in what happens as well.

I hope it catches on like wild fire.
I'll be the first in line to go get a job at McDonalds.
I get $80 to do substitute teaching for 1 day and could make $120 instead for "Do you want fries with that?"
You know, I actually feel for you here with this one, our country is in a sad state with how little we pay our educators. I have a few teacher friends that worked as bellmans at the hotel I worked at and actually made more money doing that than teaching.
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Old 05-05-2014, 11:45 AM
 
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What do they plan to do with the people already making $12 or $15?
They'll have their incomes reduced to minimum wage.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You know, I actually feel for you here with this one, our country is in a sad state with how little we pay our educators. I have a few teacher friends that worked as bellmans at the hotel I worked at and actually made more money doing that than teaching.
People don't want to pay increased taxes.
That's what it comes down to.

And I do sub teaching for slush fund money and because I like teaching.
I worked 20+ years in corporate and retired early with a pension.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:02 PM
 
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Mandated increase in min wage is not economic growth.

Productivity increase is the driving force behind economic growth.

Now if you just want to take that money from companies and give it to people to spend to manipulate the GDP figure and claim "the US is growing" then so be it.

But that is not true economic growth.
Not sure how the majority of Americans, the working class, getting richer isn't growth.

Wealth is finite, the only people who create money out of nothing is Wall Street. Any gain made by one person or group is a loss to another.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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By the time 7 years comes around, many of these low wage positions will be covered by computers.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Seattle could be raising their minimum wage to $15 over 3-7 years.

The rest of the country should get on this bandwagon very soon.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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By the time 7 years comes around, many of these low wage positions will be covered by computers.
Then it's a good thing the GOP is so in tune with the impending post-worker economy.


Wait...
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Not sure how the majority of Americans, the working class, getting richer isn't growth.

Wealth is finite, the only people who create money out of nothing is Wall Street. Any gain made by one person or group is a loss to another.
Income is only a small part of "wealth".
Those on min wage don't invest. The money goes out as soon as it comes it.
They are not growing any wealth for themselves.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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Income is only a small part of "wealth".
Those on min wage don't invest. The money goes out as soon as it comes it.
They are not growing any wealth for themselves.
Exactly.

They're spending it on consumer products, hence growing the (consumer) economy. Hence ECONOMIC GROWTH.
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Old 05-05-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Then it's a good thing the GOP is so in tune with the impending post-worker economy.


Wait...
Maybe we can pass legislation outlawing automation
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