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Old 05-14-2014, 08:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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SEA ice and LAND ice are two different things, why do you guys keep confusing the two as if they are the same??

Really? Come on now, don't play stupid with us.

Antarctic sea ice coverage reached record levels for April, hitting 3.5 million square miles — the largest on record.
It was a cold summer down in Antarctica, with sea ice coverage growing about 43,500 square miles a day, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSDC). April 2014 beats the previous sea-ice coverage record from April 2008 by a whopping 124,000 square miles.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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It just goes to show: you can't fit a gallon of water into a thimble, no matter how fast you pour.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yep.... Follow the Money!


Antarctic sea ice coverage reached record levels for April, hitting 3.5 million square miles — the largest on record.
It was a cold summer down in Antarctica, with sea ice coverage growing about 43,500 square miles a day, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSDC). April 2014 beats the previous sea-ice coverage record from April 2008 by a whopping 124,000 square miles.
That is SEA ICE, NOT LAND ICE. Why are you intentionally confusing the two?
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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it just goes to show: You can't fit a gallon of water into a thimble, no matter how fast you pour.
lol!
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:35 AM
 
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I guess that you think that would be cheaper than taking action now....Have I got that right?
The only "action we can take" is to build away from the shorelines. The oceans have been rising for thousands of years now, and there is no end in sight... it's inevitable.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:38 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So basically science has learned that the rate of heating isn't as fast as earlier determined....yet it is still heating up. Doesn't discredit climate change, just means we have learned more about it, that is called science.

No, it means scientist are on a get rich quick scheme, headed by Maurice Strong, of the World Conservation Bank, the creator of Carbon tax.

Scientist know our global climate data over the centuries it has been recorded, see a serpent line on the graph.
The scream global cooling during down swings in temperature they know is coming(1970's)
then scream global warming during up swings in temperature they know is coming(2000's)
As the consistent graph has shown over the centuries, They lost the window to show everyone the days are getting hotter. We are on headed into a global cooling trend, as the graph is turning downward in its consistent serpentine swing.

The graph showing global heating and global cooling, look like the tracks left from a Sidewinder rattle shake crossing the desert sands.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That is SEA ICE, NOT LAND ICE. Why are you intentionally confusing the two?

Let me ask, what was the original TOPIC?

I could have swore it was ice sheets of sea ice breaking off and floating into the Ocean
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Let me ask, what was the original TOPIC?

I could have swore it was ice sheets of sea ice breaking off and floating into the Ocean
Did you even bother to click on the link? It is about land ice breaking off into the ocean, not about sea ice which is a different thing.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:44 AM
 
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Let me ask, what was the original TOPIC?

I could have swore it was ice sheets of sea ice breaking off and floating into the Ocean

No, if you look at the very, very first post, by the person that started this thread, it is about the land-based ice sheet.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:50 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That is interesting, although not relevant to this thread, which is about the melting of 'land ice'.


Now back to the issue at hand: "land ice" (the issue herein) versus "sea ice":

Is Antarctica losing or gaining ice?



I guess people are confused by the word 'ice' being in both terms.

For 'sea ice', think of taking an ice cube tray, filling it with water, then freezing. Then, pull the ice tray out and let the ice melt. No change in level since it is the same water.

Now, the 'land ice' issue is about ice that is thousands and thousands of years old, sitting on 'land' (i.e., not part of the ocean). When that ice melts, it runs off into the ocean. Hence, in theory, over hundreds of years, the earth's ocean levels will increase as the ice melts.

So! Each year you have 'salt water' that freezes into ice, on the ocean. The freezing does not disturb ocean levels, and the subsequent melting does not disturb ocean levels. No one is talking about 'sea ice'.


You do understand what an ice sheet is and how it is created.

The ice sheet is the area of ice on the sea, extending out from actual land above sea level.
An ice sheet is sea ice.

A sheet of ice on land breaks, it does not fall into the ocean. It creates a crevasse.
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