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Its perfectly legal. Its done everyday. You ddo not have to have a title to a car to sell it.
In WA you still have to Create a bill of sale agreement with the buyer and sign it in the presence of a notary public as well as Visit a DMV office to fill out a form for replacement of a title.
When I lived in Texas you could sell a vehicle that was over 10 years old for scrap or parts without a paper trail, but that was a very long time ago. You cannot legally sell a modern working vehicle without a paper trail anywhere in the United States anymore.
How do people privately sell cars, houses, or any other item that can't be sold without a paper trail.
I'm not sure if you know this, but it's 2014. We aren't exactly living in the wild west anymore.
They are not covered under the Constitution. I own several guns that were bought from private sellers, do you honestly believe that I or any other gun owner would register those guns and any others we already own so we can be entered into a database? Really?
There is no way for the State to enforce background checks or registration of all private sales and gun ownership, it simply cannot be accomplished without the populace knuckling under and doing as they are told. Maybe that is how they do things in Washington, but try it here in Texas and you would be involved in an uprising before the ink dried on the Bill.
That is nonsense my friend
There is nothing in the bill that states one can't show off their guns or even let others fire their guns.
Transfer refers to new ownership, and I support the notion of not allowing some felon to trade a stolen mountain bike for a handgun with some random stranger he met on craigslist. If this means that now a background check is required to transfer a firearm with one of my fishing buddies from work, then so be it.
I posted a link earlier on this. It defines transfer very broadly, not limiting the term to just change of ownership. Friends trying out each other's guns at a range would be criminals if this passes. Hunters lending guns to each other would be criminals. And it's not just a background check required, it requires a letter from law enforcement to allow for that transfer. This law is all about creating burdens and legal landmines for gun owners and is blatantly unconstitutional and tyrannical.
It's also a good example of why direct democracy always leads to tyranny.
That is nonsense my friend
There is nothing in the bill that states one can't show off their guns or even let others fire their guns.
Transfer refers to new ownership, and I support the notion of not allowing some felon to trade a stolen mountain bike for a handgun with some random stranger he met on craigslist. If this means that now a background check is required to transfer a firearm with one of my fishing buddies from work, then so be it.
No, you're wrong..... Taken from the Bill itself:
Quote:
(25) "Transfer" means the intended delivery of a firearm to another person
without consideration of payment or promise of payment including, but not
limited to, gifts and loans.
Nope, these are good reasons to be FOR it. I live in Washington, and I am voting for this bill. It is a common sense bill.
So let me get a better sense of what you call "common sense"...... Under this bill, if a man were to go hunting with his son-in-law, and he let him borrow his gun without doing a background check, they both become instant criminals.
So, you'd consider that "common sense" law would you?
In WA you still have to Create a bill of sale agreement with the buyer and sign it in the presence of a notary public as well as Visit a DMV office to fill out a form for replacement of a title.
When I lived in Texas you could sell a vehicle that was over 10 years old for scrap or parts without a paper trail, but that was a very long time ago. You cannot legally sell a modern working vehicle without a paper trail anywhere in the United States anymore
let's stay on topic now
Quit making false statements and they won't have to be corrected.
I posted a link earlier on this. It defines transfer very broadly, not limiting the term to just change of ownership. Friends trying out each other's guns at a range would be criminals if this passes. Hunters lending guns to each other would be criminals. And it's not just a background check required, it requires a letter from law enforcement to allow for that transfer. This law is all about creating burdens and legal landmines for gun owners and is blatantly unconstitutional and tyrannical.
It's also a good example of why direct democracy always leads to tyranny.
You don't understand the bill. Read it again or have someone that's educated both read and explain it to you.
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