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Old 08-28-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: DC
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Prove this by showing the results of the investigations that found scientists to be fudging their data. Then show me the real, un-fudged data and the conclusions climatologists have drawn from it. Don't bother with any links to blogs full of cranks accusing scientists of fraud, those are as worthless as the accusations from the denialists here. Real science only, pleaseandthankyou.
Nobody was caught "fudging the number." RW circle jerk publications made up a bunch of stuff that gullible sheeple accepted as a scandal. The latest Australian "expose" will go the same way as the East Anglia "scandal." They are fabricated scandals.

 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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The amount of CO2 is meaningless on Venus.

Its the density of the atmosphere that produces the heat.

Nice try.

Keep your discussion on planet earth.
I was sure that my attempt to use scientifically based explanations wouldn't help with the sheeple. They are ignorant by choice.
 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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Uh, it was warmer before and life really flourished.

Then the ice age came about and everything nearly died.

So why are you so worried if it gets a bit warmer?

Longer growing seasons, less disease....................
We will have to relocate well over 1/2 the population of the planet and diseases will be much more prevalent.
 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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Just keep up your failing arguments.

Its entertaining.
 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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Then why hasn't it warmed in over 15 years?
Because 15 years ago we had a very hot year. It has warmed over the last 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18 years. Only when you cherry pick year 15 do you come to the erroneous conclusion that it's not warming.
 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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Because 15 years ago we had a very hot year. It has warmed over the last 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18 years. Only when you cherry pick year 15 do you come to the erroneous conclusion that it's not warming.
So all the scientists who say it stopped or "paused" are wrong and you are right?

Don't think so.
 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:19 AM
 
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Just keep up your failing arguments.

Its entertaining.
I don't need to.
We are adding renewable electrical generations at a breathtaking pace.
CAFE standards are reducing our use of petroleum products.
Coal fire plants are being closed in record numbers.
The President is preparing to sign a multi-country climate agreement.

Why worry about the small percentage of RWers who have their panties in a wad. They can't stop anything.
 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:20 AM
 
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So all the scientists who say it stopped or "paused" are wrong and you are right?

Don't think so.
Scientists don't say it stopped.
 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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People respond to financial incentives. The economically best approach is cap and trade, which has already been demonstrated to work very efficiently. Government needs both a carrot and a stick. Thinking people will do the right thing out of the goodness of their heart is naive.
Nobody forced Cleveland to clean up its rivers and water front. Its what the people and thosr with money wanted. Nobody forces anyone to buy a Hybrid.

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A very creative approach to mitigate the financial impact of cap and trade on the working poor is to rebate any net revenue to the government through Social Security. It relatively easy to make it a net zero tax. With that said, it costs money to run a government, sewers cost money but we recognize their benefit. Reducing coal plant and auto emission will also have demonstrable health and healthcare cost benefits. Finally we aren't over taxed in this country. Taxes need to go up, whatever we do about climate change.
There we go.....its not about the environment. People can see right through this. Its why Australia threw the old tax tax tax politicians out.
 
Old 08-28-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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I don't need to.
We are adding renewable electrical generations at a breathtaking pace.
CAFE standards are reducing our use of petroleum products.
Coal fire plants are being closed in record numbers.
The President is preparing to sign a multi-country climate agreement.

Why worry about the small percentage of RWers who have their panties in a wad. They can't stop anything.
Watch what happens to all those EO's your hero signed come undone by His successor.
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