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They automatically say that because it's true.
They fail to acknowledge that because it's nonsense. The minimum wage is government mandated wages in opposition to the free market. The other is not.
Ummm...markets respond to economic activity. Markets could give a rat's ass whether wages are mandated or not. Rising wages are felt equally whether given freely or mandated by government.
The OP has an excellent point, but I've yet to read it addressed by anyone. The only difference between a mandated wage increase and a voluntary increase is in a company's ability to plan. Outside of that, a $1 raise is a $1 raise, regardless of the methods used.
Ok, what is your solution....more unions to scare away businesses!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We could, in theory, have a thriving and growing steel industry in the USA and many other well paying jobs. Just keep away the union-thug demands and it could happen.
There is really no such thing as a "union shop".......it is more accurately termed "forced union membership shop"
Guess what, it is a viciously competitive task to attract and maintain decent jobs in this global business environment..........a company and its employees/potential employees should never be forced to give into union thuggery.
As for some broke dolt who starts a family.....wow, does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that is not a good idea.
I've read about ten posts tonight, and this is the third that uses the word "thug." Could you guys please come up with another term?
My company has 12 plants in North America. Two are unionized. Wanna guess which plants pay their workers the most? If someone doesn't want to join a union, that's fine by me. Just don't expect to receive the pay and benefits that union members enjoy.
Ok, what is your solution....more unions to scare away businesses!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We could, in theory, have a thriving and growing steel industry in the USA and many other well paying jobs. Just keep away the union-thug demands and it could happen.
There is really no such thing as a "union shop".......it is more accurately termed "forced union membership shop"
Guess what, it is a viciously competitive task to attract and maintain decent jobs in this global business environment..........a company and its employees/potential employees should never be forced to give into union thuggery.
As for some broke dolt who starts a family.....wow, does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that is not a good idea.
I make no claim to a solution. Just relating what my experience has been. I don't see where what was lost is coming back or is going to be regained. It didn't leave overnight and if it did return it wouldn't happen overnight either.
To me it's the same mindset as any gambler has. He's lost everything at the table. If he can get a loan from some loan shark and get back into the game he just knows he can win it all back. But in the end he looses what he was loaned and now has a debt to pay. The debt we have to pay now is the lower wage service jobs.
The average Chinese worker could get 3 times what he earns now and we still couldn't compete and live indoors. I don't see anything on the horizon that is going to change that.
Obama promised green jobs. The only thing that turned green was anyone who held their breath waiting for them. Others will make promises too. With no obligation to keep them. We become more like livestock every year scrounging around for a blade of grass in an over grazed pasture. The one constant is change. It will get better or it will get worse.
Ummm...markets respond to economic activity. Markets could give a rat's ass whether wages are mandated or not. Rising wages are felt equally whether given freely or mandated by government.
The OP has an excellent point, but I've yet to read it addressed by anyone. The only difference between a mandated wage increase and a voluntary increase is in a company's ability to plan. Outside of that, a $1 raise is a $1 raise, regardless of the methods used.
I disagree...
a mandated wage (government or union) is an across the board wage increase for that level...regardless of ABILLITY (SKILL) or PERFORMANCE
a voluntary raise based on annual/semi-annual/quarterly reviews is based on performance
why should the worst mechanic in town get paid the same as the best mechanic in town
""""pay for performance""" is a term/phrase that scares liberals and union thugs
It doesn't matter. They still get premium pay. How about allowing foreign doctors in to compete with domestic ones? You think the AMA would allow that?#Protectionism
So first you claim that increases in medical costs were due to increases in medical wages.
Now you say it doesn't matter if wages went up or not.
You previously conceded that after first stating that higher education costs went up due to wages is instead subject to debate.
So essentially, your initial OP you now admit was faulty when presented with actual information showing otherwise....but you now claim that none of that matters.
#mostironicpostername
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