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Old 09-21-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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Whenever the debate comes up on the minimum wage, detractors automatically say that it's risky to raise the minimum wage as it could increase prices and unemployment. What they fail to acknowledge or ignore for that matter is that these adverse effects take place with wage hikes in other industries. Why do you think higher education tuition have ballooned? Why are healthcare costs through the roof? The same adverse effects you see with a minimum wage increase is also visible with wage hikes in other sectors of the economy.
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Old 09-21-2014, 03:30 PM
 
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Whenever the debate comes up on the minimum wage, detractors automatically say that it's risky to raise the minimum wage as it could increase prices and unemployment. What they fail to acknowledge or ignore for that matter is that these adverse effects take place with wage hikes in other industries. Why do you think higher education tuition have ballooned? Why are healthcare costs through the roof? The same adverse effects you see with a minimum wage increase is also visible with wage hikes in other sectors of the economy.
Raising Minimum Wage 10% or 20% will be the end of the world, but lowering wages 90% by outsourcing to China and Third World Countries, brought to you by Corporate Lobbyists has had no effect.


Oh Wait.
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Old 09-21-2014, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Whenever the debate comes up on the minimum wage, detractors automatically say that it's risky to raise the minimum wage as it could increase prices and unemployment. What they fail to acknowledge or ignore for that matter is that these adverse effects take place with wage hikes in other industries. Why do you think higher education tuition have ballooned? Why are healthcare costs through the roof? The same adverse effects you see with a minimum wage increase is also visible with wage hikes in other sectors of the economy.
apparently you are forgetting some definitions

min wage is for UNSKILLED labor

GOVERNMENT/union mandating a raise is wrong

the other wage hikes...????.........based on performance and job negotiation...between employee and employer


want to scare a union guy or a liberal.........mention the phrase """"pay for performance""""
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Old 09-21-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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apparently you are forgetting some definitions

min wage is for UNSKILLED labor

GOVERNMENT/union mandating a raise is wrong

the other wage hikes...????.........based on performance and job negotiation...between employee and employer


want to scare a union guy or a liberal.........mention the phrase """"pay for performance""""
Not so fast there pardner.

Wages in this country have much more to with Supply and Demand than Skill Based Pay.
Especially, in a ever increasing global market where there are billions of others that can do your job.
That is what happens in a Globalist Utopia with a Corporate Owned Government with no National Protections for the common American. But there are plenty of protections for them abroad at tax payer expense.
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I sense a widespread support for increasing the minimum wage...it's time.
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I sense a widespread support for increasing the minimum wage...it's time.
No. It's not.

OP, a private decision is completely different from a government mandate.
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Why do liberals have such a difficult time understanding the difference between merit/market based increases and government mandated/unearned increases?
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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I sense a widespread support for increasing the minimum wage...it's time.
Only amongst union organizers, burger flippers, and pickle tossers. It's time for them to give up and get back to work as every attention-getting stunt such as walkouts and protests have garnered exactly ZERO attention, even at the local level.

Now you get back to cleaning the Slurpee machine and be sure to stock the beef jerky before punching out tonight.
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:58 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Corporate executives and high paid tech workers are getting raises due to competition for their services. There is competition for their services because they add value to the company by their work. The minimum wage workers can be easily replaced as there are many applicants waiting in line and their contribution to the bottom line is insignificant in comparison. If I were in a retail or fast food business I would reward a worker that produces more than the others with better pay or a promotion, but typically they all get the same so there is little incentive for them to try harder. Unless they are terrible workers and drive away customers, it makes little difference and then they can just be fired and replaced quickly.
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Old 09-21-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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Face facts.......no unraveling the global economy. American have been spoiled and used to living high on the hog.

Might as well get used to a big downstep in living standards and eventually 3rd world status.

The idea of the USA digging down deep...and once again becoming competitive at manufacturing things like TVs and industrial air conditioners......................forget it, the Doltocrats and union thugs would quickly drive any of those "good" jobs to China and beyond.
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