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Old 09-30-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Don't confuse gloabal warming with reduced animal populations.

Of course humans can have an impact on wildlife populations but don't try to link that with human caused global warming and CO2.

There are many stories of wildlife management increasing wildlife populations.

First rule of WM is you cannot stockpile animals, the exception is a zoo or a 'frozen bull'.
In fact, the deer population is a problem here in Ohio. Last year, the hunting season was extended.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:48 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What difference does that make? Is your argument one needs to be a vegetarian to be for conservation? Now that is brilliant!
I would have asked the same question, because I got the distinct impression you were opposed to people killing animals for food.

We're having pork chops for dinner tonight, and last week I bought another whole boneless pork loin. $1.99/lb. I cut them to about 3/4" thick. Yum.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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In fact, the deer population is a problem here in Ohio. Last year, the hunting season was extended.
Car deer accidents are up in Michigan .
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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Yes...the old if I see it in my backyard than it must be like that all over the world argument. Maxwell Smart would be proud.
Why not? Liberals use that same line of logic....
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:47 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I didn't realize deer were the benchmark of global wildlife extinction.

However, there are more deer because they no longer have a significant predator besides cars and rifles. Their predators are mostly gone due to habitat destruction.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Having been on this forum long enough, I know there are posters who believe that human activity can not have a global effect. Evidence indicates otherwise.


That human beings can drive or hunt species to extinction is well documented. I know there are conservation efforts in many countries, but more conservation is needed.

This all begs the question are conservation efforts worth the costs?

The world would be a much greyer place without the diversity of species.





BBC News - World wildlife populations halved in 40 years - report

From just 15 years ago seeing a doe every now and then, with a buck worth taking a look at, even rarer, to today.

I have a herd of does and the bucks come a running during the rut.


Hogs have always been an issue, but now it is really getting bad in the pasture with cows breaking legs in the rooting.
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:35 PM
 
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Their predators are mostly gone due to habitat destruction.
Their predators like wolves were gone a long time ago because they also kill livestock.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:05 PM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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I noticed in the article that most of the story dealt with non-US areas. Actually I didn't see the US mentioned at all. There was a short mention of the UK.

Like it or not (and I may not) extinction of species is the norm and not the exception. Is man involved in some? Yes, most likely. There is still dispute over the impact of man in the North American mega-fauna extinction 10000 years ago.

Living by the Chesapeake Bay as I do I see the impact of over-development every day, especially after a heavy rain. Measures have been adopted to lessen the impact but the reality is that the Bay watershed is predicted to increase by 10 million people over the next 20 years. Many areas of the US around high job availability centers are looking at similar numbers.
I believe the dispute of wether man was behind the extinction of the mega fauna of the Americas has been mostly resolved. There is outstanding evidence of an atmospheric explosion of either a comet or meteor over the US and Canada border, like the Tunguska meteor explosion over Siberia in 1908, dating to about 11,000 years ago and coincides with the change from one hunting culture to another. But the current rate of extinctions is much elevated due to man, animals such as the elephant, rhinoceros, tiger, chimpanzee, gorilla, orangutan and so on may not be here by the end of the century, same goes for many sharks, dolphins and whales, we are directly responsible for their plummeting populations.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Don't believe everything your neighbor says.
Groundhogs, woodchucks, whistle pigs..whatever, I hate them and trap them out all summer long. I made an attempt to shoot them with my .22 last summer but thought it to be a bad idea in a housing development. I wouldn't eat one of those if someone paid me $1K. They smell like crap and that is enough for me.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:55 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Their predators like wolves were gone a long time ago because they also kill livestock.
Yes, that is problem where wolves exists, not many wolves in Central Texas. Humans encroachment is the cause of all this, I'm not condoning anything just stating the facts of the matter.
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