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Old 10-15-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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No health workers in Nebraska or Georgia were infected. Even Liberia has a lower infection rate (2 health workers per patient in now the Texas rate). The protocols are adequate. It is the hospital that did a poor job following procedures and protocols that CDC had laid out and risked the health of the entire country. CDC said it may have gone better had they gone to Dallas right at the beginning to supervise the process. What they are "admitting" is that the people in Dallas were not competent.

No US hospital had any experience with Ebola before 8/2. Protocols, medical or otherwise, evolve based on experience and mistakes.

The first patient treated for Ebola in the US arrived at Emroy University on 8/2/14, ( 6 days before WHO announced a global epidemic).


“It doesn’t matter how much you plan,” Dr. Bruce Ribner, an infectious disease specialist ( Emroy) who directed the patients’ care, said in an interview. “You’re going to be wrong half the time.”
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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We are at the beginning of this event. Let's keep that in mind to guard against fear and panic. I think that having food and water for 60 days is a prudent "go to" plan to contemplate.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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They also told us at one point that Ebola patients would be too sick to travel so we didn't need to worry about it coming here from Africa.
Yep, and so many libs on this board said the same thing. It could never make it here. The people would be way too ill to travel. Those posters look extremely silly now.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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I have not verified this independently, but one of the talk hosts I listen to, and who has been doing good work on the ebola situation, said that there only four hospitals in the United States qualified to deal with ebola. One is in Nebraska, and one is in Atlanta and is a CDC hospital, if I recall correctly.
Montana and Maryland.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We are at the beginning of this event. Let's keep that in mind to guard against fear and panic. I think that having food and water for 60 days is a prudent "go to" plan to contemplate.
You forgot toilet paper. That is right up there with water

You'r such a bad "preppper"....

I would add a few gallons of bleach to that prep closet.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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No US hospital had any experience with Ebola before 8/2. Protocols, medical or otherwise, evolve based on experience and mistakes.
In most cases that is partially correct. We already knew what was required for Ebola a level IV pathogen. The government failed to do it.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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You forgot toilet paper. That is right up there with water

You'r such a bad "preppper"....

I would add a few gallons of bleach to that prep closet.
Copied to list. =)
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:42 AM
 
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You forgot toilet paper. That is right up there with water
That's arborcide!
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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“It doesn’t matter how much you plan,” Dr. Bruce Ribner, an infectious disease specialist who directed the patients’ care, said in an interview. “You’re going to be wrong half the time.”

While I think there are elements of luck/dumb luck in any planning, 50% right/wrong is as good as flipping a coin, ie no planning. Scary to me this guy is in some kind of "leadership" position.


It appears to me we have a blame game style of leadership in charge of this, all the way to the top, who most feel have done a lousy job at "managing" this. In this country alone, if we instituted a ban on people with passports from the heavily infected regions, we'd have at least 2 nurses in Texas who would not be infected today and who knows how many exposed. When "leadership" comes out of the gate and blames that 1st nurse for getting ebola as her fault, the only word I could think of was....pathetic.
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Well my sister is NOT in Texas and she said she would quit before dealing with Ebola.
Her hospital has ZERO level 4 gear.
Your sister is a smart woman.
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