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So its funny when it happened but when you need a story about a racist experience....bam....the whole encounter is now racist.....got it
I guess liar can go on her list of attributes.
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Originally Posted by markg91359
The point Michelle is making is too intellectual for many people to understand.........
Blah blah blah......
That's the sort of thing I believe Michelle Obama is trying to say. Some won't be able to see it, but its a real thing.
LOL. Right. ...of course why didnt I see that. Because I am so stupid....duh. So this woman who constantly complains about racism is asked in an interview about their experience with racism and the best example she can come up with is to launch into a highly intellectual and nuanced point that people asking other people for help is a form of passive racism thats programmed into all white people.......
What a load of rubbish mate. I hope you have a great dental plan....anyone who drinks that much koolaid is gonna need it.
The point Michelle is making is too intellectual for many people to understand. Some aspects of racism are very apparent. If I stand up and call someone the "N" word, no one will doubt I am a bigot. That's the sort of thing that's easy to identify and condemn.
However, many people quite unintentionally engage in behavior that I would say has racial implications--even though it does not make them racists. As people, we constantly make assumptions about the world around us based on our past experiences. Those assumptions become deeply locked in our subconscious mind. If we have dealt with many black valets in the past, when we stand outside a hotel and see a well dressed black man, the first thing that may come into our minds is "that man is a valet". I wouldn't call such behavior "racist". However, the behavior does have racial implications.
It can cut more than one way. I once worked a part time job as a reference librarian in a college library when I around 20 years of age. I am white Caucasian and I am about 6'3" tall. People would repeatedly walk up to me and ask questions that clearly assumed I was the head librarian, despite the fact there were older women and minorities who had MLS degrees and were, in fact, the full time reference librarians who would literally be standing next to me. After a while, we all realized it had something to do with my height, sex, and probably ethnicity. The people I waited on were not racist, but they were clearly making assumptions based on those kinds of factors when they approached the reference desk.
What I am describing is the subtle part of discrimination that many groups experience in this country. Its very hard to pin down and its very hard to impute bad intentions to many people involved in the process. Yet, it is real and it does exist. It also--on some level--impedes the ability of some individuals to advance much in terms of their career.
That's the sort of thing I believe Michelle Obama is trying to say. Some won't be able to see it, but its a real thing.
Everything has "racial implications", to those who make a career out of looking for such things. Let's face it, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
People here are not as stupid as you think, Mark. Some of us are black or other minorities, and most of us are just people trying to get by in this life and are tired of all the whining about racism this, racism that.
My gods, 131 children were slaughtered two days ago by Islamic extremists and the world is reeling, and people still think that saying "you people" and mistaking someone for the valet is the biggest problem of our times. Keep things in perspective.
Why would you be in Target not asking someone with a RED SHIRT AND KHAKI PANTS to help you?? Isn't this the uniform of a Target employee?
Who cares what a Target employee wears? If a person needs help getting something off a high shelf, it is pretty NORMAL behavior to ask a taller person that is nearby. I mean...that is VERY COMMON. I have been asked DOZENS of times to do this.
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Originally Posted by marilyn220
I don't ask people who are not workers of the store to help me.
Then you are really an odd duck. I have certainly asked others, that were not employees, to help me. And I have had others just plain offer to help.
It floors me that anyone would think that this behavior has ANYTHING to do with race. That is just bizarre.
The point Michelle is making is too intellectual for many people to understand. Some aspects of racism are very apparent. If I stand up and call someone the "N" word, no one will doubt I am a bigot. That's the sort of thing that's easy to identify and condemn.
However, many people quite unintentionally engage in behavior that I would say has racial implications--even though it does not make them racists. As people, we constantly make assumptions about the world around us based on our past experiences. Those assumptions become deeply locked in our subconscious mind. If we have dealt with many black valets in the past, when we stand outside a hotel and see a well dressed black man, the first thing that may come into our minds is "that man is a valet". I wouldn't call such behavior "racist". However, the behavior does have racial implications.
It can cut more than one way. I once worked a part time job as a reference librarian in a college library when I around 20 years of age. I am white Caucasian and I am about 6'3" tall. People would repeatedly walk up to me and ask questions that clearly assumed I was the head librarian, despite the fact there were older women and minorities who had MLS degrees and were, in fact, the full time reference librarians who would literally be standing next to me. After a while, we all realized it had something to do with my height, sex, and probably ethnicity. The people I waited on were not racist, but they were clearly making assumptions based on those kinds of factors when they approached the reference desk.
What I am describing is the subtle part of discrimination that many groups experience in this country. Its very hard to pin down and its very hard to impute bad intentions to many people involved in the process. Yet, it is real and it does exist. It also--on some level--impedes the ability of some individuals to advance much in terms of their career.
That's the sort of thing I believe Michelle Obama is trying to say. Some won't be able to see it, but its a real thing.
"Too intellectual" my ass. There is NOTHING racial about a person asking any other person for help. I don't care what freakin' color you are. How offensive to imply that others are too stupid to understand. I have been on both ends of the "asking for help" scenario. It's simply an issue of a person needing help. Good grief. So amazing that some people try to attach racism to every damn situation they can.
First, I think she's lying. Secondly, I'm sure it wasn't because she's black that they asked. Most likely because she's tall or was wearing a red shirt (I've made that mistake there once).
I stand corrected. It did happen. But when she was talking about the incident years ago, she thought it was funny, because the person was short.
Now, they were a racist. Makes this even more disgusting.....
"Too intellectual" my ass. There is NOTHING racial about a person asking any other person for help. I don't care what freakin' color you are. How offensive to imply that others are too stupid to understand. I have been on both ends of the "asking for help" scenario. It's simply an issue of a person needing help. Good grief. So amazing that some people try to attach racism to every damn situation they can.
Bravo!!!!!
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I have certainly asked others, that were not employees, to help me. And I have had others just plain offer to help. 
"Too intellectual" my ass. There is NOTHING racial about a person asking any other person for help. I don't care what freakin' color you are. How offensive to imply that others are too stupid to understand. I have been on both ends of the "asking for help" scenario. It's simply an issue of a person needing help. Good grief. So amazing that some people try to attach racism to every damn situation they can.
