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Old 02-04-2015, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Nobody is calling him a savage for starters.
Those who choose to paint all Muslims with a broad brush have done so. One poster in particular called all Muslims savages.
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Old 02-04-2015, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If we forget about US involvement during the war in Iraq, I'd agree 100%. The Muslims in the Mid East need to take on this threat, and stop sitting on the fence hoping other nations will clean up their own backyard for them. The Islamofscist threat is world-wide, and many Muslims are being murdered.

One reason why people from other nations are not getting involved is because they don't want to be viewed as the bad guys, they'd rather the Western nations get saddled with that. However, Obama's lack of a clear policy on this is also causing nations to sit on their hands.

If Obama were to come out with a US policy that says the Mid Eastern nations need to clean up their own messes, and the US will not be bailing them out, then these nations might take the fight to the enemy. Instead they hold back, not really knowing what US policy is, because Obama's words and actions have been erratic.
Erratic is a good term to define it and seems to mirror public sentiment.

I focus on actions moreso than empty words. Some people believe we have done too much and some believe we have not done enough.
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Old 02-04-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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I just watched the burning alive video... Probably the most f***ed up thing I have ever seen.
It looked fake.
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Old 02-04-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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It looked fake.
Not to me. Just well done, technically speaking.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Not to me. Just well done, technically speaking.
I'm sorry, you guys can slap me around if you want but I can't help myself. I gotta say the obvious.

I wonder if Michael Moore produced and directed it.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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I just watched the burning alive video... Probably the most f***ed up thing I have ever seen.
So now you know how "they" felt when the torture and abuse video's got out?
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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Those who would call all Islam savages need to get a grip on the facts.

The largest share lives in Indonesia (13%), followed by India (11%), Pakistan (11%), Bangladesh (8%), Nigeria (5%), Egypt (5%), Iran (5%), Turkey (5%), Algeria (2%) and Morocco (2%). Muslims make up a majority of the population in 49 countries.

The top four nations with the largest muslim populations on the planet are all democratic secular nations with little or no terror connections.

How does that square with the "Kill them all" faction?

Most of the international terrorism comes from the Arab middle east, not these far more populous nations you listed outside of the Muslim heartland. It actually makes me wonder why, as those nations are also muslim. What is it about Arab culture that cultivates the kind of hate that you do not see in a nation like Indonesia. Turkey is muslim, but yet you rarely hear about these terrorists people being Turkish. Even Iran, whos government seems to be quite hateful and even supportive of Arab terrorists does not actually produce a great many terrorists. Iranians are not Arab, nor are the Turks. It appears to be Arab culture that produces the most violence, but why?? I am not saying these other nations do not have internal problems, look at Packistan for example, but you really never see them export it thousands of miles away like those from the Arab parts of the middle east do. Afghanistans terrorist problem during the 9-11 era was imported from Saudi Arabia. We invaded Afghanistan, but the Saudis got away scot free.
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Most Muslims are not engaged in terrorism.

Most Muslims don't reside in the Middle East.

Most Muslim majority countries are secular.

Being gay in Turkey, a country with almost a 100% Muslim population, is not a crime. People are free to petition the Turkish government for SSM. Women have equal rights. They can divorce their husbands. They are free to become educated, choose to marry or not, work and travel without male escorts.

The largest concentration of Muslims in Europe live in Russia, not the UK, the Nordic countries, France or Germany.
Most terrorists attacks are done by Muslims in the name of Allah.
What have the secular countries done to stop ISIS.
If ISIS did not represent Islam the n the rest of Islam would stop it.
Credit to Jordan maybe they will actually try to stop it
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Oh?



You are aware that the pilot was Muslim, right?
The pilot is dead. So I'm not following your point. Like I said isalm is a savage, blood thirsty religion. One only has to study sharia law, which is an integral part of islam, to understand what an uncivilized religion it is.
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The pilot is dead. So I'm not following your point. Like I said isalm is a savage, blood thirsty religion. One only has to study sharia law, which is an integral part of islam, to understand what an uncivilized religion it is.
you're exactly the person I would like to know what you want us to do with every single 2 billion Muslims in the world if they are all savages with a bloodthirsty religion.

Come on, don't be shy, tell us what we should do to all of them and be explicit.
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