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Old 04-03-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Originally Posted by kool hand luke View Post
Great Britian allows muslims to have their own laws, and Obama would like that here as well.
Yes - or it simply won't be applied to muslims.

 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:02 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713 View Post
Neither one of them should have to bake the cake. Nor will they. Even if the Supreme Court were to rule that it is required, you will have consistent civil disobedience on this issue. You cannot force these people to do it.

And if you want homosexuals to once again be the target of violence, a good plan for getting that started would be to to try to force people like these religious bakers and pizza cooks across our country to engage in these sorts of offensive activities, which would violate both their religious beliefs and their consciences.

The Supreme Court will not be respected as the last word on this, if they were to rule that these offensive activities are required, as God is higher in these people's minds and hearts than the Supreme Court. The good news is, I do not believe the Supreme Court will rule that way.
We arent really arguing if they will or wont, more so about what we believe they should do.

the OP was wrong, but he wont admit it.
 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Exactly. Religious Freedom is a First Amendment right. The Islam religion prohibits same-sex marriage, so no, a bakery owner who is Muslim would not have to provide wedding cakes for same-sex wedding ceremonies.

Where Christian churches, other religions stand on gay marriage | Pew Research Center
Some Muslims have a religious belief about having multiple wives, and even child brides. Does that mean that they can because of the 1st amendment?
 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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The courts will just take their business license away. Then they can serve no one.
So people will be banned from certain business sectors because of their Christian religious beliefs. You really believe that people would stand still for this sort of thing?

Think about what you are advocating here. Talk about a fascist regime. Adolph Hitler and his crew would certainly approve of your tactics, as they used the same ones against the Jews.

If you are right, and I do not believe you are, this is where this is rapidly heading.
 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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Would it be OK to ask a Muslim Shop to make you 500 T Shirts with a cartoon picture of Muhommed on them?
 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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The good news is that what the revised Indiana law clarifies is that gays can't be discriminated against solely for being gay.

Gays can buy all the cakes, flowers, photography portraits, etc., they want from any business they choose without having to face discrimination. However, even though the law has been revised, they cannot just force any person or business to play a participatory role (provide goods and/or services) in a same-sex wedding ceremony if the business owner's religion prohibits same-sex marriage. Nothing trumps the First Amendment Constitutional right to exercise one's religion. Nothing. Not even the revised Indiana law.
Oh really?

You may want to check out some of the crazy religious beliefs out there before you claim that "nothing trumps the first amendment"
 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Would it be OK to ask a Muslim Shop to make you 500 T Shirts with a cartoon picture of Muhommed on them?
lol good question.
 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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What a foolish question. You are just trolling. The answer is yes.

Great debates are hard for someone here all right. I don't think it is the liberals you are referring to with this sort of question posted.
Why is not the gay community and press going after the Muslim bakery with the same hate as the Christian bakery
 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Better yet ........ Will gays be forced to cater or sell to Muslims, hate groups, ect ?
 
Old 04-03-2015, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Gone
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if you truly did not hate Christians this would not even be an issue right now.
And not all liberals are Christians.
Liberal Christians, like Cafeteria Catholics, picks and choose what they want to believe in.
They are hypocrites.
Why would I hate Christians I am one, your assumptions are glaring.
I did not say all of them are, some are not as some Cons are not Christians, you have a point, I think not.
LOL, News Flash: You are not the one that determines if someone is a Good Christian or not or the one that Judges, or do you have selective reading issues when reading your Bible?
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