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Old 04-09-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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I wonder if those who criticize a European system like Norway's ever think about the fact that not everyone's highest priority in life is to get super-rich, become No.1 and spend his all life on getting there. Most people will never make it to super-rich anyway. A lot of people would rather spend more time on family, childraising, doing a job that is enjoyable even if it does not pay all that well, travelling, educating themselves, spiritual pursuits, sport etc., while not being considered losers for it, than become locked in an endless rat race the modern America offers you.
I criticize monocultural societies being compared to multicultural societies when they are apples and oranges.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:27 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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It's constitution was clearly modeled on american and french government, no new ideas.

It's a constitutional monarchy. That makes it fundamenatally different, even if it does have elements of the US one. Admit your wrong, because you are.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Autocorrect is wonderful, don't you think?

Now, go address the point. Norway has a constitutional monarchy, yet your incorrect and faulty assertion was that it copied the US constition.

You were factually wrong, and all of a sudden your a grammar afficiando?
I didn't say it was copied.

Red, White, and Blue: America

http://sciencenordic.com/norwegian-c...racy-democracy

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Old 04-09-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I criticize monocultural societies being compared to multicultural societies when they are apples and oranges.
Great point! There are pros and cons of each.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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Canada certainly is culturally and ethically diverse, probably even more so than the USA. Comoparable personal taxes, less corporate taxes, taxpayer funded universal healthcare tht 96% of Canadians wouold not want changed as comapred to the US, and our budget will be balanced this year, and the debt paid down. That is not even on the horizon for the US.

Germany has had a large influx of non- ethic Germans, and we all know how well it is and has been doing.

Both have a lot less crime rate than the US, and certainly incarcerate less. The US incarceration and execution rate is worse than many third world countries and some dictatorships.
Canada is 78% white european ancestry, US is 63%, germany is 91%
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Hamburg...phosphorus bombs. Tell me the military objective, other than to copy the Nazis bombing of civilians in London.

When Dresden was bombed, it was full of refugees, the Allies knew it was full of refugees, and the war was for all intents and purposes over. That particular bombing campaign should have qualified as war crimes.
The war wasn't over until 7 months later. Are you trying to say that Germany had the moral high ground here? When you are at war, you bomb cities. There will always be atrocities on both sides of any war. There is no two ways about it. You can't win a politically correct war. When one side is fighting with everything they've got, the other side needs to do the same or they will lose. Germany needed to be defeated, and they brought it all upon themselves, so I find it very hard to feel sorry for them and their "beautiful cities". The world needed an unconditional surrender, and they got it.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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It's a constitutional monarchy. That makes it fundamenatally different, even if it does have elements of the US one. Admit your wrong, because you are.
LOL, fundamentally different? You need a refresher course on world governments.

And no i wont admit i am wrong because i am not, I said it was clearly modeled on the American and French governments, that is a fact.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Between the Alps and the North Sea
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I criticize monocultural societies being compared to multicultural societies when they are apples and oranges.
I was not talking about you. There was a comment two pages back along the lines of "but they can't get wealthy!" I've been lurking on these forums for a while, and such comments along with "but their houses are smaller!" and "but their cars are not as big!" come up on pretty much every USA vs. Europe thread.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Between the Alps and the North Sea
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Are you trying to say that Germany had the moral high ground here?
Nobody had a moral high ground there. Not Germany, not the USA or Britain or the Soviets. But this is a discussion for a whole other thread.
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Old 04-09-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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The war wasn't over until 7 months later. Are you trying to say that Germany had the moral high ground here? When you are at war, you bomb cities. There will always be atrocities on both sides of any war. There is no two ways about it. You can't win a politically correct war. When one side is fighting with everything they've got, the other side needs to do the same or they will lose. Germany needed to be defeated, and they brought it all upon themselves, so I find it very hard to feel sorry for them and their "beautiful cities". The world needed an unconditional surrender, and they got it.
Are you justifying bombings with no admitted military objective other than terror? That is certainly what Dresden was, and arguably Hamburg as well.

I think ISIS is using that perspective.
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