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Old 04-13-2015, 03:16 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Sure I can question that health care in Canada is better than in the U.S.

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Canada is right up there, but misses the top spot across the board on 5 year survival rates for common forms of cancer. These sorts of outcome based measures are the best way to measure the quality of health care.

The oft quoted life expectancy statistic is not a meaningful measure of quality of health care because it's more dependent on lifestyle factors such as exercise, diet, alcohol consumption etc. than it is on the quality of health care. If you are overweight, out of shape, and drink a lot no amount of quality health care delivery is going to result in a long live expectancy.

Total health care spending or spending per capita is an interesting statistic if you wanted to talk about the economic efficiency by which health care is delivered, but that too is not relevant if you want to talk about the quality of health care.

Dave
As I stated, one can pick and choose stats.

However, regardless of how, Canadians live longer while spending 33% less of GDP on healthcare.

That tells me there is a lot of fat in the USA health system. I could get into particulars of a situation I am very close to right now, but that would be me picking and choosing. Suffice it to say the person involved is suffering as a result of a covered procedure that the insurance company is dragging its feet on, and the specialists will not complete the treatment until they get payment for the first part of it. There's something wrong when money rules over medical necessity.
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:35 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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All countries are exceptional in their own way, and no country is truly exceptional.

France makes exceptional wines.

China has an exceptional wall ... also the fastest trains in the world.

The British Empire was once exceptional ... and their Navy in former times was exceptional.

Italy produced some of the world's most exceptional art, music, literature and architecture.

Brazil's rainforests and natural resources are exceptional. Some of their women are exceptional.

The United States has an exceptional space program, military prowess, computer technology, and entertainment industry.

Let us not delude ourselves by descending into ultra-nationalism or chauvinism.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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Not true. Amongst civilized areas America and America does just fine: more than 50% approval amongst most countries in the world.

Amongst crap hole third world nations and the Middle East, we don't do well. But that's just because they know without us they'd have zero economy and because Israel.

MAP: World Approval United States - Business Insider

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Which countries don

and opinions of the PEOPLE of America, themselves:



Note the difference between places that "like us" and those that don't? Yeah, the feeling is mutual.




My god the cycle of ignorance continues.

That is not a good way to gauge crap. That gauges where people get the most bang for their buck and can live cheaply. You think Florida is well liked for retirement because of its people, or because it's got no income taxes and nice weather?

I mean, give me a break. Malaysia? Cambodia? Vietnam? Honduras (murder capital of the world, lol!) Those places that make your "best places to retire list" you REALLY think are "good places to live?" They are CHEAP. But hey, by all means, go there. Vaya con dios!





That's true for many, but not "most."

The rest can go home whenever. My grandparents moved here with their kids (including my father) in the 1960s. When my grandparents retired they DID go back home, but not because they disliked America, but because they were more comfortable and could live better in the old country with that American pension.

But they still maintained ties, visited and supported the United States.



Don't project your bitterness and personal complexes on other peoples!
Dude, the favorability statistics that you posted are unimpressive at best....

Your post supported much of what I stated, people don't come here because they love America, they come here to make money and get what they can out of her. Americans will get deep into debt in order to keep up with the Jones's, why wouldn't a person want to start a business in a nation that has such a spending problem?
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Between the Alps and the North Sea
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All countries are exceptional in their own way, and no country is truly exceptional.

France makes exceptional wines.

China has an exceptional wall ... also the fastest trains in the world.

The British Empire was once exceptional ... and their Navy in former times was exceptional.

Italy produced some of the world's most exceptional art, music, literature and architecture.

Brazil's rainforests and natural resources are exceptional. Some of their women are exceptional.

The United States has an exceptional space program, military prowess, computer technology, and entertainment industry.

Let us not delude ourselves by descending into ultra-nationalism or chauvinism.
America has an exceptionally crappy entertainment industry (pop music, rap/hip-hop, Hollywood etc.), and it would be OK if they kept it to themselves, but they aggressively market it all over the world.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:56 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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America has an exceptionally crappy entertainment industry (pop music, rap/hip-hop, Hollywood etc.), and it would be OK if they kept it to themselves, but they aggressively market it all over the world.
In all fairness, other than the Brits, Neun und Neunzig Luft Balloons and the Singing Nun, there had not been much else out of Europe. Shakira is fairly international, and Canada gave the world a few stars such as Shania and Celine.

Most of the rest of popular music comes from the States. Who ever invented that electronic crap they still play on the Koenigsallee and the Kurfurstendam should be shot.

Bollywood had come out with sompe good films, but again if the US films were not good, they wouldn't sell elsewhere.

Give credit where credit is due.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Between the Alps and the North Sea
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In all fairness, other than the Brits, Neun und Neunzig Luft Balloons and the Singing Nun, there had not been much else out of Europe. Shakira is fairly international, and Canada gave the world a few stars such as Shania and Celine.

Most of the rest of popular music comes from the States. Who ever invented that electronic crap they still play on the Koenigsallee and the Kurfurstendam should be shot.

Bollywood had come out with sompe good films, but again if the US films were not good, they wouldn't sell elsewhere.

Give credit where credit is due.
It's late and I am going to bed, so I cannot provide you with a detailed reply by now, but I will give you just two words: classical music. A single Beethoven, Schubert or Mahler symphony is worth more than all the pop music the US has churned out in the last decade. And it will be played, studied and enjoyed long after all pop stars have gone into the grave and been forgotten.

Americans have great rollercoasters though - that part of entertainment industry deserves credit indeed.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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America has an exceptionally crappy entertainment industry (pop music, rap/hip-hop, Hollywood etc.), and it would be OK if they kept it to themselves, but they aggressively market it all over the world.
Awww, why don't you go along and play with your 30% youth unemployment rate, or something like that...
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Clark Park View Post
All countries are exceptional in their own way, and no country is truly exceptional.

France makes exceptional wines.

China has an exceptional wall ... also the fastest trains in the world.

The British Empire was once exceptional ... and their Navy in former times was exceptional.

Italy produced some of the world's most exceptional art, music, literature and architecture.

Brazil's rainforests and natural resources are exceptional. Some of their women are exceptional.

The United States has an exceptional space program, military prowess, computer technology, and entertainment industry.

Let us not delude ourselves by descending into ultra-nationalism or chauvinism.

Agreed.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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Awww, why don't you go along and play with your 30% youth unemployment rate, or something like that...
Which German-speaking nation has a 30% youth unemployment rate?

By the way, every single one of them has a lower youth unemployment rate than the United States.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:24 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Which German-speaking nation has a 30% youth unemployment rate?

By the way, every single one of them has a lower youth unemployment rate than the United States.
Shhhhh,.... Don't confuse the 'Murican with the facts.
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