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Old 06-10-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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LOL. Know whats funny? You thinking your prices would drop.

Why complain? Because over and over Republicans have done their best to make this NOT work.
It was broke the day it passed.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:12 PM
 
Location: DFW
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LOL. Know whats funny? You thinking your prices would drop.
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I know my prices won't drop but I'm PO'd enough to root for Obamas Legacy to get flushed down the toilet. Especially after all the lies he told to get it passed.

His Legacy to reduce health care costs is costing many of us an additional $400-600 a month.

Such a lie, just like the man.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:13 PM
 
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LOL. Know whats funny? You thinking your prices would drop.
Insurance Companies have already stated premiums will go up 10-30 percent based in part on
increased pharmaceutical costs:

Some steep increases in health premiums expected in Illinois in 2016 - Chicago Tribune

"The rates that we are filing simply reflect the costs of health care including the cost of services, the amount of services people will receive and an increase in pharmaceutical costs," Coventry spokesman Rohan Hutchings said in an emailed statement."

No light at the end of his tunnel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abrHbCFXs1E
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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You know....on one hand...yeah that would be funny.

On the other...they're so used to being dysfunctional, and NOT getting work done....that it might end up going poorly for a lot of folks....
But it would guarantee us a Democratic President and Senate who would fix the issue. If we get a Republican POTUS and another Republican Senate they will destroy the ACA, replace it with nothing all the while pontificating about how people could afford health care if they weren't just lazy and lack ambition.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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So, you've forgotten the 50 or so Pub votes to overturn the ACA? Very convenient amnesia.




If it's overturned, it will be seen as a Pub action, which in fact, it is.

Since they now have solid control of both houses of congress, it will be up to them to come up with a workable alternative.

Or not. The health care ball will be 100% in their court. It would be amusing to see how they fumble it.

And let things revert back to the unworkable mess that we had before, where the insurance companies could drop long-term policy holders as soon as they got sick and needed the coverage they'd paid for. I predict that would be a very unpopular move for the majority of the public. Of course, the far right Obamaphobic posters on this forum pretend that they're a majority, but they represent a small minority of the public.

Now, I'm no big fan of the ACA, because like all half-measures, it doesn't really solve the problem. It's a small step towards a single-payer system, which is where we're going eventually. Just like all the other industrialized nations have had working quite well for them for decades now.

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


This is ONLY the dems, you are a FAN of the ACA....you voted for obama and you need to suck up what you voted for....or maybe even call YOUR reps and say hey, why did you NOT read it before you voted for it...


This is ALL DEMS.....it does NOT matter if 50 repubs voted against it...it was PASSED by dems....
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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But the King v Burwell case is certainly a right wing action. And if the court rules for King et al, then the GOP will be like the dog that caught the car. They thought they got what they wanted so badly, but now what?

Republicans in Congress are worried the Supreme Court will hand them a major headache this month if it rules against the federal health insurance exchanges in more than 30 states, ending subsidies for millions of people.

“The politics of the King vs. Burwell case are extremely treacherous and tricky for Republicans because if the subsidies are thrown out by the court, Republicans are in the position of having to create a fix that would be seen as a problem by their most conservative supporters,†said John Ullyot, a GOP strategist and former senior Senate aide.

“There’s a chance Republicans will get more of the blame because they’re in control of the House and Senate. Unless they can produce legislation, the blame will rest in their corner.â€


Republicans fear they will win ObamaCare court battle | TheHill
If the "grubers" sorry, I mean DEMS would have read the bill.....maybe we would not be in the situation we are in now.....
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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The GOP owns both the House and Senate because of their promises to defeat Obamacare. Granted, they were lying about what they want but they only lose if they try and save it.
Welcome to 2008 AND 2012 elections.....
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:35 PM
 
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That's false so there really is no need to continue with this discussion.
Many did, because you say they did not....is not the truth....or are you really reid?
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:38 PM
 
Location: DFW
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If the "grubers" sorry, I mean DEMS would have read the bill.....maybe we would not be in the situation we are in now.....
Funny they keep trying to shift the blame to The Repubs. What a screw up they passed and Obama lied about.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I realize it would potentially be a very easy fix for the GOP. Now whether they will take the easy fix or not is the real question. Somehow, after 50+ votes to defund the law I just don't see the base allowing it to stand for another two plus years. The longer it's in place the more difficult it's going to be to kill it, especially in the heat of a presidential campaign. It would be the practical thing to do, but we're talking about the GOP here, who has operated on emotion rather than practicality for the last six years.
What you're missing here is that this would still represent a death sentence for Obamacare, only in an orderly fashion instead of a sudden and messy collapse. So I think the GOP base will be fine with that.

The GOP has actually saved Obama from himself time after time since taking the House in 2010. There was a huge spending spike from 2008-2010, and since 2010 spending has actually declined for 3 or so of those years. If Obama had gotten all the spending and tax increases that he tried for (but was blocked by John Boehner) we would have a much worse economy today.
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