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Because the states only portion is contradicted by other parts of the law, and the CBO scoring, etc etc. Basically the supreme court will look at the intent. And the intent of congress seems clear.
Its not the "clear language" that you seem to think when other parts of the law contradict it.
And you have Republicans like Olympia Snowe reaffirming that it was most likely "inadvertant language" that was "never part of our discussion at any point." Snowe also said, "Why would we want to deny peopel subsidies? It was not their fault if their state did not set up an exchange."
Republicans know this is a bogus lawsuit, and so does everyone else with a working brain.
Yep, the majority of people who showed up, not who can actually vote....
the more that show up the more the dems will win. The last thing Republicans want to see is a large voter turnout. Speaking of majorities, I saw today that less than 4 in 10 Americans want to repeal subsidies for Obamacare. The majority of us think they should be retained. Pubs got a problem.
the more that show up the more the dems will win. The last thing Republicans want to see is a large voter turnout. Speaking of majorities, I saw today that less than 4 in 10 Americans want to repeal subsidies for Obamacare. The majority of us think they should be retained. Pubs got a problem.
LOL....link....
Dems have a problem, they promised, provided, not it maybe taken away...how does that have anything to do with the repubs?
Dems have a problem, they promised, provided, not it maybe taken away...how does that have anything to do with the repubs?
The dems have absolutely no Plan B. None. They will be content to let the Pubs dangle in the wind if millions lose coverage. Don't forget the the first signees onto Ocare were the sickest and the neediest. The public will be very upset as the news is filled with stories of kids and people dying from cancer unable to complete their treatments. Everyone will know someone who has been hurt by the decision. Insurance markets could collapse in many states and premiums, everyone's will soar just in time for the elections next year. The liberal media will loudly trumpet the stories. The Dems will blame the Republicans and it will stick. It has started already with Obama making speeches about how this is an easy case that should never have been heard by the SC. Never, except for politics (i.e. Republicans), that is. Be careful what you wish for.
I can only wonder if Obama even read ACA before he put it out there. He was a lawyer and a professor, and assuming he actually read it, apparently he missed "established by the state". Can only wonder how many eyes were on these four words and didn't catch it.
Now Obama wants to poo-poo the legal wording as a "mistake" and chastises SCOTUS for adhering to the law and their petty interpretation (according to him) of "established by the state". This not something he can fix with a pen by editing ACA at will.
Read the article and see the devastation that could result if Obama loses this one.
Yet if Obama loses on this it changes the Law not one iota.
He'll just have to follow it now.
The dems have absolutely no Plan B. None. They will be content to let the Pubs dangle in the wind if millions lose coverage. Don't forget the the first signees onto Ocare were the sickest and the neediest. The public will be very upset as the news is filled with stories of kids and people dying from cancer unable to complete their treatments. Everyone will know someone who has been hurt by the decision. Insurance markets could collapse in many states and premiums, everyone's will soar just in time for the elections next year. The liberal media will loudly trumpet the stories. The Dems will blame the Republicans and it will stick. It has started already with Obama making speeches about how this is an easy case that should never have been heard by the SC. Never, except for politics (i.e. Republicans), that is. Be careful what you wish for.
The problem is there is no way Hillary will be trusted or allowed to do anything concerning health care.
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Originally Posted by pollyrobin
And you know what. She won't support a single payer system, just like Obama wouldn't,
because they are owned and paid for by the Insurance Companies.
Those bell and whistles the Insurance Companies tout, are frankly, bull****, when it comes
down to the nitty gritty of "real" health care delivery and cost containment.
"As I recall, this was his categorical response, that he thinks single-payer is the way to go," Young said. "Over the years, there's been ever more edging on his part, to the point where what he has now is a multitiered program, but it ain't single-payer."
"You know, I have thought about this, as you might guess, for 15 years and I never seriously considered a single payer system." - Hillary Clinton
Q: And if the choice is a single-payer system, that’s fine by you?
MRS. CLINTON: You know, I think that would be highly unlikely. I think that, you know, there’s too many bells and whistles that Americans want that would not be available in kind of a bare-bones Medicare-like system but I think it’s important to have that competition.
I don't think either of ya'll are entirely wrong. Hillary is a corrupt, self-interested political coward above all else. I wouldn't trust her to take out my garbage unless she was benefiting somehow.
But there lies the key. Hillary's most memorable legacy from her time as first lady is the ill-fated HillaryCare debacle. It still chaps her ass to this day... and given the opportunity she will wipe it from history. What better way than to SUCCESSFULLY get HillaryCare put into law?
This will require a catalyst to get started though... a CRISIS, that is. And if the SCOTUS sides with the Republicans... then she has been handed just that. And she'll ride it into the Whitehouse.
So frankly I HOPE the Supreme Court sides with the Republicans. I HOPE they render the Affordable Care Act ineffective and unworkable. Because our Republican congress will NOT fix it. And millions of Americans suddenly without healthcare? People DYING due to lack of funds? The GOP will be tarred and feathered over this. The peasants will get out their pitchforks. Heads will roll.
The ONLY hope Republicans have should the Supreme Court side with them is to pass a TEMPORARY fix. And they may well do that- setting up a bi-annual fight just like the debt ceiling. And we know how well THAT worked out for the Repugs.
But that's all a pipe dream. Realistcially... if I were betting on it (and I'm not- I'm not really affected either way)... I'd expect the SCOTUS to side with Obama. And the whole issue fizzles in a blaze of mediocrity.
To me this looks an awful lot like a lose/lose scenario for the GOP.
I doubt they will do anything to fix this mess, but, the republicans are in a tough spot as well. I hate them all personally. I think less is more.
How ever it ends I'm sure it will hit us in the wallet.
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