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Old 06-18-2015, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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He's compromised and his goals and motivations are suspect. He's definitely a sorry excuse for a Pope, certainly the worst in living memory. If you doubt his sincerity and his rational thinking, how can you put any faith in his religious teachings?
So the Pope needs to start bowing down to the global corporate agenda to get your approval?

 
Old 06-18-2015, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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It's understandable that people who follow Bronze Age creeds would think so.
So true.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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what is "leftist" about halting or reversing the damage done to this precious planet ?

does the never-ending pursuit of avarice - the love of money - rule your entire mind ?

those who do not care about the environment are a scourge, a plague on nature.

I care more about nature's precious ecology than I care about scumbag corporate profits.

That doesn't make me a "liberal". It makes be a conscious human being.
But the people on the right pretty strongly feel that raising taxes and making more and stricter regulations is, by far, the wrong way to go about protecting the environment.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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The Catholic church has a long history of scientific ignorance. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Galileo_affair
 
Old 06-18-2015, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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"Science denier?" Nobody "denies" science. I do deny that "global warming" is based on science though. It's a proven hoax!



And you?
LOL, if only global warming could be corrected by cutting taxes and regulations, you would NOT reject it, think it's based on sound science and corrections certainly needed to be aggressively pursued by the government.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Not that I'm a fan of the Catholic Church, but at least the Pope has a Masters degree in chemistry and has a clue about science.
SNOPES thinks that is mostly FALSE.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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How can any rational person seriously believe this is some kind of a political 'hoax'? It would have to be a massive complex worldwide conspiracy with everyone involved keeping silent for the past 50 years. Everyone would have to be corrupt. All the evidence would have to be faked. And the laws of physics would have had to be faked as well. Is that sort of thinking rational? No
But opponents feer there is far too much to lose in raising taxes and making more strict regulations should the dire claims about what to expect from global warming turn out to be all wrong.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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And Catholic politicians like Pelosi, stepped right into it, by using the Pope's encyclical calling for climate legislation because we have a moral responsibility to protect "god's creation," the planet. Now she will have to square that one with the Pope saying allowing abortion and being a treehugger are incompatible.[/b][/i]
I must admit, it will make for some pretty fine entertainment watching Pelosi deal with this. One can only hope that she, and others, may have a 'ah ha' moment...
 
Old 06-18-2015, 09:18 PM
 
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Actually the US emits almost three times as much CO2 per person than China does, and ten times as much per person as India.
Good for us, and we will continue to emit co2 as long as we are the industrial engine of the world (though our co2 per capita is down to 1960 level since).

China too will continue to do so at an ever increasing rate. They already surpassed the per capita of the EU. As for India, give them 20 years, they still have 400+ million people without lightbulb in their huts
 
Old 06-18-2015, 09:26 PM
 
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Poor right wingers! Don't like a religious leader who is more educated and compassionate than their own homegrown, fanatical flat earth religious leaders who care more about what people do in their bedrooms than they care about science.
A tangled web for both left and right, a free thinker. But wait, is he pro-science or anti-science? It has to be one or the other, but he thinks things I don't think. How can it be? What box is he in? I can agree with him on some points and disagree on others, but I am relieved to have someone - anyone - that doesn't fit into a box.
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