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Old 07-17-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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Is not racist to point out the problems of our American brethren,is not racist to look at our fellow American struggles, is only racist when you equate said problem to the shade of their skin, is racist when you think the problems they suffer is because of the amount of melanin in their skin, is racist to look at them and brush away their problems because of how they look on the outside.
"Hispanic" ain't a race. Too, I've run into some Mexican illegals who had pasty white skin.
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Old 07-17-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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Agreed.

Funnily enough, the Irish and Italians were both discriminated against in the US when they first made a real presence here. Now, when one thinks of a "typical 'murrican", they likely imagine someone with an extraction mix of Irish/German/Italian.

One day, Mexican or Guatemalan will be in that visualized mix as well. Hope that doesn't upset any
resident moonlighting Stormfronters too much.

And by the way, even if they are not US citizens, they are still Americans. What continent do they come from?? Exactly.
The word "American" by itself means "US citizen" ONLY.

Storm front is just like la raza tho sometimes the skin color of the members is a little different. Too; both hate groups DON'T like Black people, even Hispanic Blacks.
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Old 07-17-2015, 02:44 PM
 
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Why don't Asians face these same problems here in CA? Why do they generally excel in academics? They face many of the same challenges Hispanics face, including learning english. Maybe because they place emphasis on things like education while most Hispanics do not.
That's a real good question. Too; many Asians are "Chicano brown" in skin color yet still blow past most Hispanics, even white ones in school.
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Old 07-17-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: San Marcos, CA
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Why not? That sounds like a good policy to me. U.S. test scores on international math and science exams are already dismal. We don't need it to get worse.
Part of what makes America great is the opportunity it has been for suffering people all over the world to come for a fresh start. Sometimes this just makes life better for the immigrants (at first), and then later on, everyone is helped. The country as a whole shouldn't adopt the "what can you do for me right now?" attitude toward potential immigrants. That's selfish, and it doesn't show a lot of compassion for humanity.
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Old 07-17-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Education professors Patricia Gandara of UCLA and Frances Contreras of University of Washington wrote the 2009 book "The Latino Education Crisis: The Consequences of Failed Social Policies." Heather Mac Donald, a contributing editor of City Journal, reviewed the book.
She wrote: "Hispanics are underachieving academically at an alarming rate, the authors report. Though second- and third-generation Hispanics make some progress over their first-generation parents, that progress starts from an extremely low base and stalls out at high school completion.


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Damn: that's rough. Tho Hispanic culture ain't 1 of the betters ones looking at any LatAm country. I said "culture" since Argentina is the "whitest" country in the Americas.
Whenever people flood across a sovereign border they cause chaos. Economic, social, crime, etc. that is why immigration is controlled in countries across the globe.

Any academic would realize that uncontrolled migration is disasterous.

Ingredients are to be added slowly to ensure their flavors blend into the stew to give it character and taste.
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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Part of what makes America great is the opportunity it has been for suffering people all over the world to come for a fresh start. Sometimes this just makes life better for the immigrants (at first), and then later on, everyone is helped. The country as a whole shouldn't adopt the "what can you do for me right now?" attitude toward potential immigrants. That's selfish, and it doesn't show a lot of compassion for humanity.
I'm not responsible for all of humanity, Jack. We Americans need to set policies that are most beneficial for us, the same as everyone else in the world. And we don't have much use for millions of new academic underachievers right now. Back when this was an industrial nation we did. But times have changed.

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Old 07-17-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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I have to laugh every time someone in here claims that "immigrants" are only doing jobs that Americans won't do. Hogwash! Calif. Latinos here "illegally" are sinking this state.
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm currently working in South America. Most of the illegal immigrants we are getting are from the lower educated and economic classes of Latin America. We also get a few of the highly educated and brilliant Latinos. In the case of the former, they are providing a service to employers who are getting wealthy off their labor but in general, it is serving to lower the average income of the bottom half of the US socioeconomic ladder. In the case of the educated and upper economic class Latinos, they are bringing money and business savvy that is benefitting the economy.

Overall, the Latino immigrants are causing the jobs in the lower sector of the economy keep wages very low and is causing part of our income inequality.
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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Why don't Asians face these same problems here in CA? Why do they generally excel in academics? They face many of the same challenges Hispanics face, including learning english. Maybe because they place emphasis on things like education while most Hispanics do not.
Asians inherit traits of an IQ of 103 and toward being orderly, hard working and nonviolent. Hispanics inherit an IQ of 87 and toward being disorderly, sometimes hard working, and higher tendency to violence.

You cannot change group inherited tendencies, not that we are even trying.

Neither group or any group should continue to mass immigrate to America. Enough is enough.
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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I'm currently working in South America. Most of the illegal immigrants we are getting are from the lower educated and economic classes of Latin America. We also get a few of the highly educated and brilliant Latinos. In the case of the former, they are providing a service to employers who are getting wealthy off their labor but in general, it is serving to lower the average income of the bottom half of the US socioeconomic ladder. In the case of the educated and upper economic class Latinos, they are bringing money and business savvy that is benefitting the economy.

Overall, the Latino immigrants are causing the jobs in the lower sector of the economy keep wages very low and is causing part of our income inequality.
It also increases competition at all levels. When illegal immigrants fill and crash the lower job market and even the skilled trades, more Americans are forced into competing for STEM and white color jobs. Then our good ol' progressives bring in Asians to fill STEM that they haven't outsourced. Everyone is being squeezed by immigration and overpopulation.
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