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Old 08-07-2015, 06:06 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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It's amazing how the right wing (as you can tell from some of the above replies) is obliovus to the changing global economy and global labor pool over the last several decades. I understand why they wanted educators to include more American exceptionalism BS in history, to keep people stupid. Real easy to be exceptional when you have two large oceans surrounding you and vast natural resources. Not to mention two world wars to knock off the competition.

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Old 08-07-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Like welfare, military spending is a symptom of a corrupt government, neither are the cause (i.e. the welfare cheat and the military contractor aren't the problem, the government who steals our money and doles it out to them is)
Strip the money and control from it and these issues take care of themselves.

Which is why you will read very little of funding the federal government in the Constitution. They knew what happens when one entity controls all finances. They broke free from Britain because of such. They hated being taxed and the money sent back to Britain. It is no different now save for it goes to the federal government rather than to Britain. What do we really see of the money the government spends? War? Ain't good enough.


Socialist, communist and totalitarian governments are where citizens get all of their worldly needs as the government is the only entity which holds them. Think of how the Obamas live compared to the average $50K/year family. Make it a $100K/year. There is no comparison. It is the same in Russia - Putin lives high on the hog while Russians are eating dirt. The same holds true in most middle eastern countries as well as most developed countries who elect their leaders. Those at the top get the cream while those at the bottom get sloppy dredges.

It's not a dem vs rep thing, it's power and money. It's what led to the French Revolution.


Obama was a community organizer; for what purpose? How many community organizers fly to Hawaii every Christmas on the dime of the very people he supposedly "organized"?

Strip the money and control from it.
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Old 08-07-2015, 06:18 PM
 
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Obama was a community organizer; for what purpose? How many community organizers fly to Hawaii every Christmas on the dime of the very people he supposedly "organized"?
Didn't he do that after he graduated in Chicago?
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Old 08-08-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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The economy has become global and technoloy has been progressing at a quick rate that has been leaving developed countries struggling to create jobs at levels in the past. The right wingers on this forum, don't seem to be aware of this shift, but it seems our population is pretty ignorant about what's happening.

This issue isn't welfare or wanting to keep people on it, as quite a few on here ignorantly say, but the fact the private sector profits and productivity keep increasing while wages stagnate and benefits decrease. I expect welfare to only increase in developed countries while the developing world reaches an equilibrium with us.

The issue I see is how we should do welfare now and in the future.
"The economy has become global and technoloy has been progressing at a quick rate that has been leaving developed countries struggling to create jobs at levels in the past. The right wingers on this forum, don't seem to be aware of this shift, but it seems our population is pretty ignorant about what's happening.

"The right wingers on this forum, don't seem to be aware of this shift,"

I agree with your assessment of the global economy but, I do disagree with who hasn't learned it yet.

I find those on the left are the ones constantly whining about jobs going oversees and they keep chanting about bringing the jobs back "home", ignoring the global economy.
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Old 08-08-2015, 07:22 AM
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Let's just see what happens when the checks stop coming in. What will the Dems do then? Probably just say, "Too bad".
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Old 08-08-2015, 08:36 AM
 
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Let's just see what happens when the checks stop coming in. What will the Dems do then? Probably just say, "Too bad".
I can guarantee you that farmers (who are majority GOP) will squeal the loudest if government handouts stop coming in. They did in 2014.
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Old 08-08-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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I agree with your assessment of the global economy but, I do disagree with who hasn't learned it yet.

I find those on the left are the ones constantly whining about jobs going oversees and they keep chanting about bringing the jobs back "home", ignoring the global economy.
Really? It seems the right wing blames Obama and the democrats for the economy more so than what's really going on. Granted, I'd expect liberals to do the same if a republican was in charge again.
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:15 PM
 
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Really? It seems the right wing blames Obama and the democrats for the economy more so than what's really going on. Granted, I'd expect liberals to do the same if a republican was in charge again.
Clinton: NAFTA

Obama: TPP

Hmmmm...
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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Clinton: NAFTA
NAFTA was supported free market folks and is what any good capitalist would want.

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Obama: TPP
That hasn't had an effect on anything yet. However, it does make one think how to regulate a global economy.

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Hmmmm...
NAFTA didn't do anything to push SE Asia to become the world's low cost manufacturing hub or cause the developed Asian countries to become high tech manufacturers. Germany didn't need NAFTA to become an European manufacturing hub. Try again.
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Old 08-10-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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NAFTA was supported free market folks and is what any good capitalist would want.
Since when are Dems free market folks?
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