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Old 10-05-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Yes it would. You are restricting gun ownership only to those who can afford to have a psychological exam to be done. The constitution is clear. It would also be racist. Lower income minorities couldn't afford it. There would be challenges and there is no way it remains.. You may as well try and bring back Jim Crow.
We also restrict gun ownership only to those who can afford to purchase a gun. The constitution doesn't guarantee cost-free ownership of firearms.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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The leftie hysterical cry of "close the gun show loopholes!" Another leftie mantra built on lies and misinformation.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:13 PM
 
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Redundant. Only a driver's license should require testing. Simply make it a law that only someone with a driver's license can purchase a car. Similar to: only those who have a gun ownership permit may purchase or own a gun.
I took my driving test 36 years ago......
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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We also restrict gun ownership only to those who can afford to purchase a gun. The constitution doesn't guarantee cost-free ownership of firearms.
That is not a cost incurred by the government to own a firearm. Mandated psychological testing would be.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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We could require doctors treating mentally ill patients torpor these people to the police so that they can be added to the data base to deny ownership. I mean seriously we do that to people with a PFA filed against them. I would start with known mental patients. Seems to me these mass shooters all seem to have an established history of mental issues. The problem with either or scenarios is the fact that they are either designed to prevent compromise or designed to prevent solution. Either or is never about achieving solutions.

Much easier to screen potential gun owners for mental illness.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The leftie hysterical cry of "close the gun show loopholes!" Another leftie mantra built on lies and misinformation.

This will clear up any misinformation:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQEDvqmAfqg
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I took my driving test 36 years ago......
You do have to renew your license, correct? Also, an eye exam screening at times with renewal?
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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That is not a cost incurred by the government to own a firearm. Mandated psychological testing would be.


Part of the permit fee.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Part of the permit fee.
Even your "permit fee" would be unconstitutional.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:28 PM
 
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We don't have a gun ownership problem in America, we have a mental illness healthcare management problem in America, and one of public policy at that. We are incredibly dismissive of mental illness in this Country, and we pay for it because we hide behind political canards that have nothing to do with it. I couldn't care less about gun ownership; I don't own guns nor is it part of my formative culture. I also anecdotally have come to conclude most recreational folk are not responsible gun owners anyways. All that said, I don't think this in any way has anything to do with these shooting rampages.

We need to put teeth and skin behind mental illness as a societal cost. Guardian of a mentally ill? Tough cheese, you don't get to own a gun. Johnny decides to shoot up a place and you're found not to exercise due diligence in reporting behavioral problems to mental health agencies? Civil liability for you. Yeah buddy.

Law enforcement is also woefully unprepared/untrained to adequately address our mentally ill. They either beat them up or the system locks them up in the incorrect facilities.

The guns are a canard. We need to take ownership for our societal shortcomings in addressing mental health as a matter of public policy in this Country.
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