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When it comes to a group like Islam, the above claim is CLEARLY SPELLED OUT in their own religious texts ... i.e., it is the PRIMARY DUTY of Muslims to promote Islam worldwide, which demands either conversion to Islam, or subjugation by Muslims. The differences between the so called " moderate Muslims" and the ,"extremists" is that the extremists choose to skip over the "convert or die" meme, and get right to the killing part.
Western culture cannot coexist with Islam not because of our desire to do so, but because Islam has no intention of doing so.
Western culture cannot coexist with Islam not because of our desire to do so, but because Islam has no intention of doing so.
This is probably the clearest, most common sense representation of this issue I have seen. Well said!
Even among the moderates there is no attempt or interest in assimilation or joining the melting pot as immigrants before them have done.
How does enforcing our immigration laws and making sure that we don't allow terrorists to remain here or to continue to come here equate to hate?
Do you ever hear yourself?? Are you able to grasp the depth of hatred of some people?
Enforcing laws - I have no problem with that. Throwing out ALL Americans that are Muslims - that I do have a problem with.
After hating for a while apparently some people are so blind to their own hatred that it's second nature to them.
Why don't you take some time off from CD and take a step back and take stock of yourself and you might see what I and others see. It's not a pretty picture.
Even among the moderates there is no attempt or interest in assimilation or joining the melting pot as immigrants before them have done.
Really??? Do you want me to provide you a list of moderate Muslims born in the US or are immigrants that assimilated and succeeded to levels that you could only dream about?
Do you ever hear yourself?? Are you able to grasp the depth of hatred of some people?
Why don't you take some time off from CD and take a step back and take stock of yourself and you might see what I and others see. It's not a pretty picture.
You want to know what is really ugly and what people should take a step back and examine?
That 21 people answered the poll in the OP and said that they would be OK with the Syrian immigration even if it wound up leading to another Paris style attack here in our country.
So for some, it's perfectly fine to sacrifice American lives on the alter of diversity and political correctness.
That's what is really ugly and scary to me.
Really??? Do you want me to provide you a list of moderate Muslims born in the US or are immigrants that assimilated and succeeded to levels that you could only dream about?
Dr. Oz
Shaquille O'Neal
Fareed Zakaria
Ellen Burstyn
Aasif Mandivi
Akon
Ice Cube
Dave Chappelle
T-Pain
Jermaine Jackson
Janet Jackson
Cat Stevens
Mahammad Ali
Busta Rhym
Snoop Dog
Mike Tyson
Amal Clooney
Everlast
and many others including Muslim-American soldiers buried in Arlington fighting for your freedom
Excellent article on where the term "moderate Islam" comes from...
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There is no "moderate" Islam in the mosques or in Mecca. You won't find it in the Koran or the Hadiths. If you want to find moderate Islam, browse the newspaper editorials after a terrorist attack or take a course on Islamic religion taught by a Unitarian Sociologist wearing fake native jewelry.
You won't find the fabled land of moderate Muslims in the east. You won't even find it in the west. Like all myths, it exists in the imagination of those who tell the stories. You won't find a moderate Islam in the Koran, but you will find it in countless Western books about Islam.
Moderate Islam isn't what most Muslims believe. It's what most liberals believe that Muslims believe.
The new multicultural theology of the West is moderate Islam. Moderate Islam is the perfect religion for a secular age since it isn't a religion at all.
Without a moderate Islam, the Socialist projects of Europe depend on heavy immigration collapse. America's War on Terror becomes the endless, inescapable slog that the rise of ISIS has once again revealed it to be. Multiculturalism, post-nationalism, and Third World Guiltism all implode.
Without moderate Muslims, nationalism returns, borders close, and the right wins. That is what they fear.
Moderate Islam is a difficult faith. To believe in it, you have to disregard over a thousand years of recorded history, theology, demographics and just about everything that predates 1965. You have to ignore the bearded men chopping off heads because they don't represent the majority of Muslims.
Their moderate Islam is light on the details, beyond standing for social justice, fighting Global Warming and supporting gay rights, because it is really multiculturalism wearing a fake beard. When a Western leader claims that the latest batch of Islamic terrorists don't speak for Islam, he isn't defending Muslims, he's defending multiculturalism. He assumes that Muslims believe in multiculturalism because he does.
Expel the Muslims, the illegals pouring of our border, and the traitor liberals and leftists who support them.
In the case of Muslims, declare war on that "religion" and its practitioners and allies.
Enforce immigration law for once.
And no more immigration by non-whites until affirmative action (discrimination against whites) is eliminated.
Eliminate the cancer from America.
You say no one will be left.
Wrong.
The good people will be left.
And the rotten ones will be gone -- like parasites removed from their host.
What a farce!
Declaring war on that religion will have the same results it did in the past; roughly 200 years of people killing people to what end again....my goodness, Islam is still here and flourishing.
The "good" people will remain, haar, I guess you ignored completely the fact the "good" people are presently killing each other at a greater rate than "radical, evil, muslims" could only wish to emulate.
Put down the fear cocktail, step away from the fear bar and wander over to the regular bar where the intelligent bartender will inform you over your Jack and beer chaser that you have a greater chance of being car-jacked, mugged, or simply shot for no reason by your fellow citizens than being the victim of any radical islamist violence.
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