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Old 01-02-2016, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Originally Posted by AfternoonCoffee View Post
.......... In 60 years he has never been a victim of a home invasion. ...........
On the other hand, someone got shot and killed across the street in an home invasion last month. It was suspected that the home was a place to score drugs and the attackers knew that. A few years ago, there was another home invasion at an apartment complex across the street (this street being the highway) with some drug dealers that came 50 miles or so because they had been denied payment in a deal.

The obvious answer is, "Don't do drugs" and if such people are around, well, one can always hope they will go to the "right" house in their pursuits.

I mean, people always go to the right house, especially in the dark, right?

 
Old 01-02-2016, 12:52 AM
 
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On the other hand, someone got shot and killed across the street in an home invasion last month. It was suspected that the home was a place to score drugs and the attackers knew that. A few years ago, there was another home invasion at an apartment complex across the street (this street being the highway) with some drug dealers that came 50 miles or so because they had been denied payment in a deal.

The obvious answer is, "Don't do drugs" and if such people are around, well, one can always hope they will go to the "right" house in their pursuits.

I mean, people always go to the right house, especially in the dark, right?
Um...riiiight...I guess your point is "crime happens" ?

While, yes, crime happens, living in disproportionate, irrational fear is not a healthy response. The subject of my post lives in disproportionate, irrational fear. And therefore has a much greater chance of accidentally shooting a loved one.

Your personal risks may vary.
 
Old 01-02-2016, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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So, you're saying that the mother shot her purposely.
I don't see where the other poster said that. Why are you being obtuse? But there is a recent incident that took place here in Oregon where a guy shot his daughter Elk hunting. I told my wife that if it were me that had done that there is no way on earth that I would be able to come back and face her mother or anyone else for that matter. There would be two dead humans and one wounded Elk for searchers to find.

A parent that can kill their own child accidentally or any other way and go on living is a parent that should at least have to answer the question "did you do it puposely" under oath! As it stands, neither in the hunters case, or this womans case, or any of the hundreds... thousands... of other cases like this, does the shooter ever have to explain under oath, what exactly took place, when, where and why.

That should change. And if it did, I think we would see a more thoughtful and responsible gun culture evolve in response to serious consequences for gun carelessness.
 
Old 01-02-2016, 03:24 AM
 
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So, you're saying that the mother shot her purposely.
Well why didnt she yell out "WHOS THERE??" that would have been easy enough!


IF NO ONE RESPONDED,THEN TAKE FURTHER ACTION!!!!!
 
Old 01-02-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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So, you're saying that the mother shot her purposely.
That's pretty obvious that the mother did shoot her purposely. The gun didn't go off by accident.
 
Old 01-02-2016, 06:15 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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Originally Posted by AfternoonCoffee View Post
.In 60 years he has never been a victim of a home invasion.
In those 60 years has he ever accidentally shot any one?
 
Old 01-02-2016, 06:43 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by TamaraSavannah View Post
On the other hand, someone got shot and killed across the street in an home invasion last month. It was suspected that the home was a place to score drugs and the attackers knew that. A few years ago, there was another home invasion at an apartment complex across the street (this street being the highway) with some drug dealers that came 50 miles or so because they had been denied payment in a deal.

The obvious answer is, "Don't do drugs" and if such people are around, well, one can always hope they will go to the "right" house in their pursuits.

I mean, people always go to the right house, especially in the dark, right?
None of that - I mean, none of that is worse than killing your own kid. Statistically, that is what is more likely to happen. Shooting a family member.
 
Old 01-02-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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As usual, people JUMP to conclusions when the "investigation is ongoing".

No facts, no nothing. And the story doesn't even make sense (as usual) but let's JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON.

LEAP to remove the ONLY protection that citizens have against the threat of a totalitarian government regime.
 
Old 01-02-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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This is such a reasonable stance. Wish there was more of this common sense to be found...

Stories like the OP put an ache in the pit of my stomach. I am terrified my mother is going to die this way.

My father (who is a bit of a "all hat and no cattle" idiot) sleeps with a loaded gun under his pillow or in his nightstand. He's scared to death of an intruder coming into their home, yet he fails to understand how much more likely he is to accidently shoot his wife in the middle of the night. In 60 years he has never been a victim of a home invasion. Plus he's on a ton of different medications (so who knows how that affects his ability to make rational decisions when suddenly awakened from deep sleep...)

After my 5 year old son wanted to show me where "Grandpa keeps his gun" (um, beside the sofa! ) I asked my parents to please lock all the guns away when the grandchildren come over--even at night. I would honestly rather face the odds that my children are shot by an unknown intruder than by their grandfather thinking they were an intruder!

this is exactly what I think
 
Old 01-02-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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We have two wireless surveillance cameras with audio outside our front door, everything that happens near our house is recorded to an SD card and we have a monitor in our kitchen & it beeps when anyone gets within line of sight of one of the monitors & we can view them on the monitor or talk to them from inside the house. It took an hour to install and cost us $200.

I'm not selling them, but I highly recommend that everyone get one- here is the system we got
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