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Old 02-15-2016, 08:08 PM
 
Location: NJ/NYC
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Nobody is blindly complaining. We can learn from other countries.

Out of 141 countries, the U.S. has the 4th-highest degree of wealth inequality in the world, trailing only Russia, Ukraine, and Lebanon.
Yet the financial industry keeps creating new wealth for its millionaires. According to the authors of the Global Wealth Report, the world’s wealth has doubled in ten years, from $113 trillion to $223 trillion, and is expected to reach $330 trillion by 2017.

a good read:

https://www.organicconsumers.org/new...people-america



Grizzly Addams and RubyTwo were you two going to add to the conversation by talking about the film or just leave your rude comments?
As others have already pointed out this list is absurd. I'm sure you'd be signing up to ship out to Nigeria right?

I could care less about the rich getting richer, maybe they are getting rich because they are excelling, or offering a great service, product, etc. If you have any work ethic, common sense, you can make it to middle class in America. That's good enough for me.

People will not stay equal no matter what. It is against human nature. Sure we could learn certain things from other countries, but there is a reason America is unique and different from everywhere else. You got a better shot to make it here than anywhere else.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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People in Europe don't live the way Americans do, the overwhelming majority live in apartments, single family homes are unheard of, they use mass transit because many do not even own cars and those that do have small cars because gasoline is so expensive. There are no Germans living in McMansions or driving gas guzzling SUVs.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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People in Europe don't live the way Americans do. . There are no Germans living in McMansions or driving gas guzzling SUVs.

yes exactly it isn't only the government but corporations, and citizens that needs to make changes. I agree with you.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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Originally Posted by Wintergirl80 View Post
Nobody is blindly complaining. We can learn from other countries.

Out of 141 countries, the U.S. has the 4th-highest degree of wealth inequality in the world, trailing only Russia, Ukraine, and Lebanon.
Yet the financial industry keeps creating new wealth for its millionaires. According to the authors of the Global Wealth Report, the world’s wealth has doubled in ten years, from $113 trillion to $223 trillion, and is expected to reach $330 trillion by 2017.

a good read:

https://www.organicconsumers.org/new...people-america



Grizzly Addams and RubyTwo were you two going to add to the conversation by talking about the film or just leave your rude comments?
I just wanted to make a rude comment. However, Europe does already exist, so there is no reason to create another one.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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This documentary looks worth seeing. Maybe the U.S. should learn from European countries how to treat their people better. They seem to have better health and high quality living standards where everyone benefits, not just a select few.
They also don't border a third world country, have tens of millions of illegals or have a very large percentage of the population without any work ethic who think the government owes them everything.

We should learn something from the European countries. We should learn to let the rest of the world take care of itself, stop defending everyone else and cut foreign aid. We should also learn about restricting immigration like EU countries normally do and stop letting people in who aren't going to benefit the country.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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There is an interesting idea that has been getting some hype lately, to fight the coming robot age - providing people with a "basic income" since there won't be as many jobs since robots will be doing them. It is an interesting solution:

Why Silicon Valley's Leading Startup Incubator Wants To Research Basic Income | Co.Exist | ideas + impact
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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They also don't border a third world country, have tens of millions of illegals or have a very large percentage of the population without any work ethic who think the government owes them everything.
10s of millions of illegals? A large percentage of the population. Care to share some stats with us? Where is your evidence?
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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People in Europe don't live the way Americans do, the overwhelming majority live in apartments, single family homes are unheard of, they use mass transit because many do not even own cars and those that do have small cars because gasoline is so expensive. There are no Germans living in McMansions or driving gas guzzling SUVs.
Are these things, and I do mean things, "single family homes" and "cars" signs of advances or improvements?
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:52 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I just saw Michael Moore's new film "Where To Invade Next". He mentions that we spend 60% of our budget on the military but that's where the military angle ends.
Well, that's false right off the bat. It's only 20%, even when veterans benefits are included.

https://media.nationalpriorities.org...15_enacted.png

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Most of the film was about the life style that the Europeans have gotten used to. A life style that ended for us back in 1980.

Even though Bernie Sanders is not mentioned in the film once, the film is a two hour ad for his platform. The Italians get two weeks off from work when they get married, by law. Their lunch hours are two hours long and they go home for their meals. The Germans get three weeks at a spa at employer expense if their doctor says that they are stressed out. There was a guy from Colorado who went to live in Slovenia for their free education system. Scandinavians speak more than one language and their school day is shorter than ours. French school children have meals every day that the average New Yorker would pay $50 for.
All Europeans get at least 20 vacation days a year by law.

We are doing something wrong and y'all had better wake up.
Well, we could always start taxing like they do...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ont-have-a-47/
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:04 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Free, free, free. free, free. Everything is freeeeeeeeee! Yipeeee!

Do these people ever think that somebody (cough cough cough) is paying for it!
Exactly. European countries tax regressively, meaning that a greater tax burden is borne by lower- and middle-income earners than is borne by higher income earners, which is the exact opposite of how the US Government taxes us. And don't forget they have a 20-25% VAT tax that EVERYONE pays. THAT'S how they pay for all those goodies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ont-have-a-47/

Think Americans will go for switching to a regressive tax system, like the Europeans have?
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