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Old 03-07-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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Flint has voted for Dems for 84 straight yrs. What did it get us? For 18 months Dems remained silent &ignored pleas while Flint was poisoned
Well - I concur.

It's not that Repubs would have been any better... it's that government in general can't run things. They are not experts at anything. All we can hope is that they can mange stuff at a competent level.

In the end, the people of Flint voted them into office. If they want change, they have the control.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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the problem is that government at all levels is spending so much money on social items, that they are ignoring what they really need to be spending on which is infrastructure.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:24 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Tweet from Mar 6...
Flint has voted for Dems for 84 straight yrs. What did it get us? For 18 months Dems remained silent &ignored pleas while Flint was poisoned
Well - I concur.

It's not that Repubs would have been any better... it's that government in general can't run things. They are not experts at anything. All we can hope is that they can mange stuff at a competent level.

In the end, the people of Flint voted them into office. If they want change, they have the control.
Michigan's Governor is a Republican, Michigan's senate is Republican (27-11), Michigan's House is Republican(61-46)
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Michael Moore, like you, are making the flawed argument.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:25 AM
 
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Michigan's Governor is a Republican, Michigan's senate is Republican (27-11), Michigan's House is Republican(61-46)
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Michael Moore, like you, are making the flawed argument.
And Obama (D) is the President. What did Obama do to prevent the situation in Flint from happening? NOTHING.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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Michigan's Governor is a Republican, Michigan's senate is Republican (27-11), Michigan's House is Republican(61-46)
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Michael Moore, like you, are making the flawed argument.
yes, now they are but what about 10 yeas ago? or five years ago? and why re you picking on the state government when the issue is a local one?
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:39 AM
 
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Michigan's Governor is a Republican, Michigan's senate is Republican (27-11), Michigan's House is Republican(61-46)
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Michael Moore, like you, are making the flawed argument.
They control the water supply? Who is in charge of the water?

I said the Repubs wouldn't do any better... please put away cue sheet of planned responses.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:45 AM
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yes, now they are but what about 10 yeas ago? or five years ago? and why re you picking on the state government when the issue is a local one?
Because this isnt a local issue and Michigan is not a blue state on the local level, at best it is a purple state if not light red.

Michigan's House of Representatives has only been blue for 7 of the last 24 years( partisan comparison only goes back to 1992, im not picking odd numbers on purpose)

Michigan's Senate has not been blue a single year since 1992.

The city chose to leave the Detroit system, yes, that is 100% true, no one disputes that, its the time frame that matters. The City council and the mayor at the time seemed to have been working on a 15 to 20 year plan that would have involved the flint river after new pipes were put in and new filtration. when Detroit kicked them out of the water system after finding out the city wasnt going to renew its contract, the City manager decided to forgo the plan and skip to the end result which was using the Flint River.

Regardless of your like or dislike of Democrats, the city being screwed on this issue, isnt the fault of (D)'s. it is the City manager the governor appointed... and to another extent, the State's Water Authority and EPA who decided not to treat the water, even after finding high levels of lead.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:47 AM
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They control the water supply? Who is in charge of the water?

I said the Repubs wouldn't do any better... please put away cue sheet of planned responses.
You are arguing equal or marginal accountability by Democrats over a problem they did not create.

You conceding that Republicans would do no better is simply you trying to place blame on both sides.


If you truly believe both sides are responsible, then you are simply misinformed. And I explained why in a response that will appear above this one.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:49 AM
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And Obama (D) is the President. What did Obama do to prevent the situation in Flint from happening? NOTHING.
Why would Obama know about a water system switch in the city of Flint Michigan ?
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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You are arguing equal or marginal accountability by Democrats over a problem they did not create.

You conceding that Republicans would do no better is simply you trying to place blame on both sides.


If you truly believe both sides are responsible, then you are simply misinformed. And I explained why in a response that will appear above this one.
My comment was... government is not the expert in the room... right, left, middle, whatever.
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