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Old 03-16-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Just to point out that this type of stupid is not limited to just Americans..........


A Canadian citizen who was born in South Korea, has been sentenced in North Korea, for trying to spread Christian information in North Korea. He was a Reverend at a Korean Canadian church in a city in Canada. He went to NK for a "visit " but he brought with him certain Christian books, and he also tried to organise prayer meetings. He has been visiting NK for 18 years. He should have known better !!


Here is a link to the CBC news story about his sentencing. He got a LIFE sentence.


Hyeon Soo Lim, Toronto pastor, sentenced to life in prison in North Korea - Toronto - CBC News




Jim B.
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Old 03-16-2016, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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That's what you get for going to N. Korea.

Agreed. Because the sane among us know that a 15-year hard labor sentence is not "appropriate" for stealing a banner. And that's one of the problems with NK.

I have to wonder about these kids who think it's "cute" to provoke these despots. Another one was sentenced to 6 years a couple of years ago after ripping up his visa. He said at the time that he wanted to "investigate" conditions in NK prisons (). Now, if he gets a little free time, he's spending it writing plaintive letters to Mrs. Obama, asking her to intervene.

This is what happens when students who aren't aware that they have it made in the shade here, are woefully ignorant about what's going on in other countries.
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Old 03-16-2016, 04:35 PM
 
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Agreed. Because the sane among us know that a 15-year hard labor sentence is not "appropriate" for stealing a banner. And that's one of the problems with NK.

I have to wonder about these kids who think it's "cute" to provoke these despots. Another one was sentenced to 6 years a couple of years ago after ripping up his visa. He said at the time that he wanted to "investigate" conditions in NK prisons (). Now, if he gets a little free time, he's spending it writing plaintive letters to Mrs. Obama, asking her to intervene.

This is what happens when students who aren't aware that they have it made in the shade here, are woefully ignorant about what's going on in other countries.
Well, apparently in North Korea, it IS an appropriate sentence, since their justice system just imposed it on this poor lil' din-doo-nuffin. We don't get to impose our overly liberal sentencing concepts on other countries (thank God!). When you are a guest in someone else's home, you behave properly, and that includes not taking stuff without their permission. He got exactly what he asked for, and he needs to man up, and deal with it. And hysterically crying in court is not really accomplishing that. If anything, it's just playing into the hands of how weak Americans really are. (I'm sure they don't get a daily dose of the puzzy in the white house on the news over there, so this will do just fine)

I have to think things don't get stolen very often in NK, and they probably don't have much of a graffiti problem either. And harsh sentences in harsh conditions tend to cement that it's a really bad idea. Just think how much better this country would be if we had less crime, and criminals got real punishment instead of the coddling we provide them.

In a small way, I do feel sorry for him, but just think..he can write a great movie when he gets out, since I'm sure it'll be quite a life experience.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I think he received an appropriate sentence for his stupidity.






North Korea Sentences U.S. Student Otto Warmbier to 15 Years
He will be the sole survivor if NK nukes the US, as recently seen on tv.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:34 PM
 
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Saudi Arabia has all kinds of odd punishments, yet the US will do everything to defend that country.

I am sure if NK toed the US line, the US would have zero care about the brutality of the regime.
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Old 03-16-2016, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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And exactly how would that be possible if the Americans in question didn't actually violate NK's laws?

The kid was stupid. He committed an illegal act in a foreign country. And a tyrannical foreign country, at that. Sorry, but when that happens... you commit the crime; you do the time.
I did say stupid Americans.
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Old 03-16-2016, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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He was caught stealing. How is that manipulating an arrest?
Well he got caught stealing a banner and they charged him with subversion and everything but being a US spy. That's pretty much manipulating an arrest for political reasons.

Now given the political climate in North Korea it shouldn't come as a huge surprise and even a tiny amount of research should have clued this guy in that committing a crime there would be monumentally stupid, but he did it anyway.

It doesn't really have any impact, but they keep calling him a college student - I wonder what his major was? Any bets it wasn't a STEM major?
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Well he got caught stealing a banner and they charged him with subversion and everything but being a US spy. That's pretty much manipulating an arrest for political reasons.
So they caught him stealing, something frowned upon in almost all countries/cultures. It's the DRPK, with an American caught breaking a law. Regardless of what political spin there is put on it, there is no basis to manipulate the arrest.

As I said, he'll just now be a pawn in state sanctioned ransom. I doubt highly he'll be doing the 15 year sentence hanging above him.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Japan
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In a way, yes.


You choose to accept the responsibility of the dangers, therefore if that decision lands you in trouble, you have to accept the reality of the situation.

No arguement there.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:17 PM
 
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Where are you now, Dennis Rodman? You're our only hope!
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