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And you, as USUAL didn't do sufficient research. Navojo code talkers were PREDOMINANT in WII, but NOT exclusive.
And you are just another condescending person who is a waste of my time. I DO notice you made NO mention of the other reprehensible acts you LIBERALS did to not only my ancestors, but ALL Native American tribes. Like handing out plague infested blankets as germ warfare. Of course. You can't be bothered with THAT. Because you can't talk your way out of or defend it.
ResidigingHere2007, why don't you tell me the positive benefits of government, and how it has helped black people as a whole. I would like to hear 5 good things that big government has done for Black Americans. Also my viewpoints are my own. Almost any anarchist or anarcho-capitalist are white, and most of them flirt with ideas of racial realism and white nationalism, or the flat out don't address racial issues at all. So I take offense to the idea that I just read some random article and decided to come up with my point of view. I regularly argue with others who have a very different point of view just to show how strong I am in my own viewpoints
ResidigingHere2007, why don't you tell me the positive benefits of government, and how it has helped black people as a whole. I would like to hear 5 good things that big government has done for Black Americans. Also my viewpoints are my own. Almost any anarchist or anarcho-capitalist are white, and most of them flirt with ideas of racial realism and white nationalism, or the flat out don't address racial issues at all. So I take offense to the idea that I just read some random article and decided to come up with my point of view. I regularly argue with others who have a very different point of view just to show how strong I am in my own viewpoints
At this point in time it's safe to say that government is an is. I see no point arguing for anarchy... any kind of anarchy. It is not going to happen. You may as well argue for Democratic Socialism. That isn't likely to happen either. But DS is at least government. A government structure of some kind will always prevail in the affairs of humankind until we stop being human. You are, in fact, not actually an anarchist. You are Contrarian. There are a lot of white people that have not exactly had a wonderful life under Capitalism American Style but... what? That means it needs to turn into Anarcho-Capitalism because it didn't fulfill all the expectations Joe or Julia American had for it? I really hate to break it to you, but.. no, it does not.
At this point in time it's safe to say that government is an is. I see no point arguing for anarchy... any kind of anarchy. It is not going to happen. You may as well argue for Democratic Socialism. That isn't likely to happen either. But DS is at least government. A government structure of some kind will always prevail in the affairs of humankind until we stop being human. You are, in fact, not actually an anarchist. You are Contrarian. There are a lot of white people that have not exactly had a wonderful life under Capitalism American Style but... what? That means it needs to turn into Anarcho-Capitalism because it didn't fulfill all the expectations Joe or Julia American had for it? I really hate to break it to you, but.. no, it does not.
You made some good points. BUT there are still a few of us left who are neither Dems or Repubs. We call ourselves Libertarians. And Libertarians STILL believe in SMALL government and no intervention into foreign policy.
“Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations...entangling alliances with none”
At this point in time it's safe to say that government is an is. I see no point arguing for anarchy... any kind of anarchy. It is not going to happen.
I think it will happen, just probably not within my lifetime (assuming we won't find ways to make humans immortal before I kick the bucket). I do give it about 100 years or so for most of the world to be staunchly anti-government. I can see civilization 100 years from now dealing with government, and seeing how silly it is that anyone would defend government to begin with
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You may as well argue for Democratic Socialism. That isn't likely to happen either. But DS is at least government.
DS is very likely to happen in the USA and it's pretty scary. I hope we have a collapse in our monetary system to the point where we will have no time to actually move our society to this. I believe if we have a full monetary collapse, then a huge wealth transfer is likely to take place, and we'll enjoy a few years of unregulated and pure capitalism
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A government structure of some kind will always prevail in the affairs of humankind until we stop being human.
People think talking to other on the internet is a waste of time. I think it is intriguing because there are people in the world who really want to be lead by someone. I know people who just flat out need to be subservient to someone. These are people scam artist love.
I say that to say this. The people who really feel the desire to be lead will always have a desire to have more government. This is why lack of government doesn't mean lack of leaders. I do understand that leaders and followers will emerge in a system of anarchy. But I do not believe that people would give up their rights to form another government.
Remember government is made up of people, and you can only have government when you feel that a group of people have the right to impede on your rights, or "assign" you rights based on some arbitrary indicator (like race)
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You are, in fact, not actually an anarchist. You are Contrarian. There are a lot of white people that have not exactly had a wonderful life under Capitalism American Style but... what? That means it needs to turn into Anarcho-Capitalism because it didn't fulfill all the expectations Joe or Julia American had for it? I really hate to break it to you, but.. no, it does not.
I don't think I'm 100% anarchist either, I do however think I'm about 90% there. And I'm not sure I'm a contrarian, I just do not really believe in big government in any shape or form. And contrary to what people like residinghere will say about me, I have studied a lot of politics in many countries. Africa is a prime example of just how bad government can be. As a matter of fact, I believe the political history of Africa for the last 100 years have proven that you really can't get government "right".
This is the problem with statist and leftist. They believe that eventually you'll get government "right". That there is some magical piece of legislation that will solve all of the racism in the world, or that will rid every inequality that exist. This is where I'm sure that you can't get government right, and the more problems you try to solve through government the more you mess everything up.
I don't think I'm 100% anarchist either, I do however think I'm about 90% there. And I'm not sure I'm a contrarian, I just do not really believe in big government in any shape or form. And contrary to what people like residinghere will say about me, I have studied a lot of politics in many countries. Africa is a prime example of just how bad government can be. As a matter of fact, I believe the political history of Africa for the last 100 years have proven that you really can't get government "right".
This is the problem with statist and leftist. They believe that eventually you'll get government "right". That there is some magical piece of legislation that will solve all of the racism in the world, or that will rid every inequality that exist. This is where I'm sure that you can't get government right, and the more problems you try to solve through government the more you mess everything up.
Reminding me of Churchill's famous quote, “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”
You are wrong as most people are when they try to express the views of people who don't agree with them. I would bet my last dollar you would have a hard time finding anyone who thinks we can eventually "get government right" (especially these days). You always think and express yourself in terms of these sorts of absolutes and misrepresentations of fact, such that I am more reluctant than usual to attempt any sort of further reason or logic, but surely you can do better, at least to understand others...
To "solve all of the racism in the world?"
"Rid every inequality that exists?"
I mean you can't really be serious, but sure seems you are as much as you go on like that...
You are like the perfectionist that can't get anything done, because perfection is not possible. Back to reality, of course we are working from a disadvantage in most ways when it comes to the workings of society, because we are people, human beings. Human beings are badly flawed in all too many ways to count, but this is not a good justification for turning our backs on what efforts have been made toward progress despite our flaws and problems, right?
I mean, you don't burn down an entire house because there is a leak in the roof, broken windows and blocked plumbing. Not if you want some shelter anyway. Or if you don't, fine, but that's on you to recognize you want something different from those who at least want a roof over their head. On you to make your way elsewhere. Stop forever complaining about the house until you move out in any case!
... I think the only way to fix black America now is to repel all Civil Rights. Because we can talk about genes and low IQs all day. But the bottomline black America is dysfunctional, because black people believe in government more than any other group in America. Black people do NOTHING but wait for government to step in and solve problems. But since the government doesn't know how to solve problems, and black people do. I think we need to just remove all government support out of the black community. Starting with giving blacks no civil rights, no right to vote, no public schools, no police force, and not 1 tax dollar going to help the black community.
The only recourse for black America will be to actually build up their own communities. This mean build their own businesses, build their own schools, and build their own infrastructure. This will stimulate greater economic activity in the black community, and this will in essence rescue the Black Community from big government.
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...This is the problem with statist and leftist. They believe that eventually you'll get government "right". That there is some magical piece of legislation that will solve all of the racism in the world, or that will rid every inequality that exist. This is where I'm sure that you can't get government right, and the more problems you try to solve through government the more you mess everything up.
You accuse statists & leftists of believing 'that eventually they'll get government "right".'
While you seem to believe that eventually the market & repealing all Civil Rights will get things 'right.'
The first known use of Native Americans in the American military to transmit messages under fire was a group of Cherokee troops used by the American 30th Infantry Division serving alongside the British during the Second Battle of the Somme. According to the Division Signal Officer, this took place in September 1918. Their unit was under British command at the time.[3]
LOL, what years did WW2 happen Wytchy.....?
Here's a clue - not in 1918 lol!!
I stated that the Cherokee were code talkers in WW1, World War One!! World War One was going on in 1918, not WW2, which the US didn't get involved in until 1941.
From your own Wiki link:
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The name code talkers is strongly associated with bilingual Navajo speakers specially recruited during World War II by the Marines to serve in their standard communications units in the Pacific Theater. Code talking, however, was pioneered by Cherokee and Choctaw Indians during World War I.
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ResidingHere2007 seems to have backed off when confronted by me and now you.
I backed off because I have a life outside of forums. I do stuff with my kids and family in the evening.
Maybe you should take your evenings to learn about the major conflicts of the 20th century and what years they occurred and to read your own source material. WW1 and WW2 were two different conflicts. You specifically stated your Cherokee ancestors were Code Talkers during WW2. They were not. The Navajo were code talkers in WW2, not the Cherokee.
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