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People in the military get education benefits and healthcare benefits that non-military members do not. I believe that people who serve in the military deserve all of the benefits that they get and more besides. But why should a person who has not served and will not serve in the military, either because he is not qualified, or because he does not wish to, not have access to the same benefits that people in the military receive? On what grounds can it be justified to provide unequal social benefits to people in different professions? Do we live in a caste society or a society where everyone has equal rights (I thought it was the latter?)
And why isn't Bernie Sanders framing the healthcare and education issue in this way? He keeps blabbering on about how Western European countries, England, Canada have free healthcare and education. He hasn't mentioned once that a lot of Americans - people serving in the military - already get these benefits. To treat a sick person differently depending on whether that person is a member of the military or not seems to me absurd.
The only thing that's absurd is advocating the mooching of unearned benefits.
Um...they're not free the way you'd like yours to be free.
The military is their employer and, as such, what you're referring to is (along with other perks) part of the benefit package. You'll find many competitive perks in private industries, too. Am I beefing because I don't get free Verizon access like my neighbor's great great great Aunt Tillie does because she has a shirttail relative who works there?
You have two choices: enlist in the military, or work for a company which extends such benefits.
And therein lies the problem! The archaic, backward mentality of thinking that healthcare, in this modern day and age, is "compensation," and that one's access to it should depend on whoever your employer is.
NO. An individual's life and health is sacrosanct. It is the most important thing in a person's life. To say that your access to healthcare should have any dependence on who your employer is, and what benefits that they provide is utterly preposterous. Maybe when we were living in the dark ages and didn't have the knowledge and institutions we do now, but there's no excuse anymore.
Then shop for it, promote buying it across state lines (free market) and purchase it with your earnings.
Everyone needs food to survive so it should be a right. The military is part of the government which I pay for and they feed their soldiers. Therefore I should have the right to free food too!
Don't bother to reply, I'm off to Red Lobster, I'll tell them the government is paying!
Originally Posted by Y2Jayy View Post
To say that your access to healthcare should have any dependence on who your employer is, and what benefits that they provide is utterly preposterous.
Actually getting healthcare without going broke now depends on being employed by someone else. Did you get a load of how the premiums skyrocketed after Obamacare became law?
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...if you're willing to put your life on the line to defend this country and its freedoms (that are dwindling daily) [then you] deserve said compensation.
You don't DESERVE anything for doing your job other than your paycheck and thats it, I could see medical thrown in there because a lot of places do that these days, everything else, get rid of it! My taxes shouldn't have to pay for these people!
You're clearly not understanding what just about everyone has said... when we signed up and took the job part of the compensation package includes health coverage. It isn't and it certainly wasn't free, we paid for it, some paid more than others but we all paid for everything we were paid. We don't "deserve" anything because we signed up, we legally deserve what we were promised in our contracts when we did our jobs.
Also keep in mind that we pay just as much taxes as you do, well if you ever found a job that is.
Wow, I don't know what you read, but you should really stop....
lmao..strong military? What strong military? The military in other countries totally sucks.
And it is a pestilence. I can at least say no to the vaccination..where was my right and choice to say no, I don't want you guys to go to X Y Z country, stay out of it! My tax dollars PAY their salary, pay for the guns that they use, and pay for the equipment as well..so although I am not there physically, anyone that has paid taxes has contributed the safety and well being to the troops and have done their part as well. To say that it is just all them and that's it, is totally ludicrous.
My freedom is mine, I know full well how to use a gun and I do not need nor ask for anyone to help me. And going with your point, if the military kept its nose out of other countries business, then they wouldn't have to worry about other countries attacking now would they? This whole, "The military is fighting for your freedom" is pure conservative bs.
You sound pretty angry, maybe you need a little air.
Originally Posted by Down in a Hole View Post
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...if you're willing to put your life on the line to defend this country and its freedoms (that are dwindling daily) [then you] deserve said compensation.
You don't DESERVE anything for doing your job other than your paycheck and thats it, I could see medical thrown in there because a lot of places do that these days, everything else, get rid of it! My taxes shouldn't have to pay for these people!
Do you have a job? Health insurance is usually a part of the compensation package. If you have a job why don't you have health insurance?
If you don't work ... and don't have insurance.... wasn't Obamacare supposed to make sure everyone got insurance?
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I have more of a problem with convicted criminals receiving free healthcare and an education than I do our armed forces. They've committed a wrong against society so we let them get college degrees why most of our kids have to take out school loans.
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