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Again. If she hadn't gotten drunk and passed out, he wouldn't have tried to have sex with her. She IS partially to blame for the situation.
Passing out drunk is ALWAYS a stupid thing to do. She could have passed out drunk by herself and a complete stranger could have raped her, or at the very least robbed her.
Being drunk in no way gives anyone permission to rape you. Women are raped when sober, when inside their own homes, when at work, when in their cars. The blame is on the RAPIST not the victim.
Again. If she hadn't gotten drunk and passed out, he wouldn't have tried to have sex with her. She IS partially to blame for the situation.
Passing out drunk is ALWAYS a stupid thing to do. She could have passed out drunk by herself and a complete stranger could have raped her, or at the very least robbed her.
No she isn't. Sounds like she was minding her business. Passed out or not, she didn't ask him to come over and rape her. There are a lot of people who are victimized that can't defend themselves. She falls in the same category.
I'll tell you why. Because even if everyone is 100% alert, 100% ready to defend, 100% sober - there will still, and always, be those who are strong and those who are weak.
The Brock Turners of this world are strong, and they prey on the weak. That is not OK.
It makes no difference if he uses force to attack a woman who is physically weaker, or if he forces himself on an unconscious woman. It doesn't matter how specifically it came to be that there's a situation where he's strong and she's vulnerable.
What matters is how the strong treats the vulnerable, because that's one hundred percent the choice and so one hundred percent the responsibility of the strong. It was Brock Turner's character that was put to the simplest of tests - protect, ignore, or violate? - and it was he who failed. And that fact remains no matter the rationalizations - his, his fathers', or yours.
Dark, you need to read up on this case because there is zero evidence of drunken foreplay.
OK. But do you agree with my statement?
Assuming it is true that the situation began as consensual drunken foreplay, she bears some responsibility for what happened. And yes, he is guilty of a less serious crime than is a person who commits forcible rape.
I get the impression that most of the women posting here do not agree. Apparently it does not matter to them how a woman who alleges rape was behaving, whether or not she was drinking heavily with the accused, encouraging him, kissing him, touching him, or whatever. Such details have no bearing, in their minds, on the degree of guilt or appropriate punishment. In fact, it is putting an undue burden on the woman even to question her too closely about this.
Assuming it is true that the situation began as consensual drunken foreplay, she bears some responsibility for what happened. And yes, he is guilty of a less serious crime than is a person who commits forcible rape.
I get the impression that most of the women posting here do not agree. Apparently it does not matter to them how a woman who alleges rape was behaving, whether or not she was drinking heavily with the accused, encouraging him, kissing him, touching him, or whatever. Such details have no bearing, in their minds, on the degree of guilt or appropriate punishment. In fact, it is putting an undue burden on the woman even to question her too closely about this.
Absolutely. Blacks routinely are released without serving a single day in prison for crimes. Can't treat blacks equally now, can we? White guilt, doncha know. Assuming the police would even bother to arrest him, least he hurt himself while in custody and idiots burn their neighborhood down.
Besides, no money to be made by arresting a rapist-the focus is on revenue generation. More effort put into speeding tickets than solving crimes.
How are black men the most incarcerated group in America then.
Assuming it is true that the situation began as consensual drunken foreplay, she bears some responsibility for what happened. And yes, he is guilty of a less serious crime than is a person who commits forcible rape.
There is no evidence of this though. They hadn't even met an hour before she was found behind the dumpster with him on top of her. No one at the party testified to seeing the two interacting. How did they go from complete strangers to him on top of her unconscious, half naked body in the alley in just one hour?
How are black men the most incarcerated group in America then.
They commit the most crime in America, that's how.
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