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View Poll Results: Should we have stricter gun-ownership laws?
Yes 114 28.08%
No 292 71.92%
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:40 PM
 
Location: In a house
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Not an innocent homeowner. Rival drug gangs.
Might see more home owners standing up for themselves if they could. But you dont want to see good people protecting themselves now do you.

 
Old 06-02-2008, 02:41 PM
 
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I never asserted that the founding fathers thought guns should be restricted back in the 18th century I'm asserting that in large urban environments in the 21st century, we find the need to restrict the possession of guns. The two issues are unrelated.
But how do you justify it now that its obviously ineffective & only makes it easier for the lawless to walk all over you?
 
Old 06-02-2008, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Might see more home owners standing up for themselves if they could. But you dont want to see good people protecting themselves now do you.
I'm not sure "good people" need much protection. It appears that drug lords to need to be well armed.
 
Old 06-02-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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I will wager that the Supreme Court overturns the Appeals Court's decision.
The problem with you & Mr Church is you think this is politics. Its not. Its a judicial thing now & they cannot simply ignore the law because some morons think its outdated. They can only decide acording to the constitution & can only interpret it acording to original intent. The liberal crybaby socialists are certainly entitled to try & amend the constitution, thats the only legal way, but by next month the idea that you can just say a hunk of our constitution is outdated & ignore it will be laid to rest.
Some justices might not like it. IMO at least one didn't from viewing the testimony, but even tho he didn't like it he refused to accept the idea that DC's legislation was "reasonable" or that it was only a militia right.
 
Old 06-02-2008, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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But how do you justify it now that its obviously ineffective & only makes it easier for the lawless to walk all over you?
Nobody is walking all over me. I'm quite safe in my home. I have locks, an alarm system, and a responsive police department. All I need.
 
Old 06-02-2008, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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The problem with you & Mr Church is you think this is politics. Its not. Its a judicial thing now & they cannot simply ignore the law because some morons think its outdated. They can only decide acording to the constitution & can only interpret it acording to original intent. The liberal crybaby socialists are certainly entitled to try & amend the constitution, thats the only legal way, but by next month the idea that you can just say a hunk of our constitution is outdated & ignore it will be laid to rest.
Some justices might not like it. IMO at least one didn't from viewing the testimony, but even tho he didn't like it he refused to accept the idea that DC's legislation was "reasonable" or that it was only a militia right.
Watch them.
 
Old 06-02-2008, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I'm not sure "good people" need much protection.
Is this so?

Marine Who Was Killed On Leave Is Buried

On leave from the violence he had survived in the war in Iraq, a young Marine was so wary of crime on the streets of his home town that he carried only $8 to avoid becoming a robbery target.

They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had, and told him since he was a Marine and didn't have any money, he didn't deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him," Holt said


washingtonpost.com

Guess according to you, this Marine was not a "good guy" then -

This Marine had more guts and more character than you will ever have -
 
Old 06-02-2008, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Is this so?

Marine Who Was Killed On Leave Is Buried

On leave from the violence he had survived in the war in Iraq, a young Marine was so wary of crime on the streets of his home town that he carried only $8 to avoid becoming a robbery target.

They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had, and told him since he was a Marine and didn't have any money, he didn't deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him," Holt said

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

Guess according to you, this Marine was not a "good guy" then -

This Marine had more guts and more character than you will ever have -
A tragedy. I see you want use this young man's death to further some petty political cause.
 
Old 06-02-2008, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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A tragedy. I see you want use this young man's death to further some petty political cause.
No - I want you - someone who does not have the qualifications to even shine this or any other Marines shoes - to admit that the "Good Guys" need protection also - you seem to fail to realize that - and your own words state that -
I'm not sure "good people" need much protection.

 
Old 06-02-2008, 04:19 PM
 
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No - I want you - someone who does not have the qualifications to even shine this or any other Marines shoes - to admit that the "Good Guys" need protection also - you seem to fail to realize that - and your own words state that -
I'm not sure "good people" need much protection.
For someone who never even served, you hold yourself in pretty high regard.
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