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Trump might be a cancer and totally destroy everything inside the GOP and in politics and if thats so then he is actually a blessing in disguise for the people. We need someone like Trump to totally shake things up so we can take out the trash.
As bad as Trump might appear he might just be the Angel we all so desperately need.
Hillary is out for only herself and she will do nothing for the people but lie and cheat them out of their tax money.
Sounds like a pretty accurate description of Trump, actually.
Originally Posted by steven_h The op's premise is completely flawed, and just a regurgitation of what used to be a fallback narrative. The typical lineup comes out to pat each other on the back, while showing how low information rationalization truly works.
Trump is to the RNC what Bernie is to the DNC; they are both riding a wave of discontent for the establishment. We saw it happen in BREXIT, and now (hopefully) we'll follow suit here. It has nothing to do with the TEA people, who BTW aren't racists... but then anyone who doesn't lockstep with progressives are all racists. As for the birther thing, let's not forget that it was actually the Hillary camp which started floating that one back in 2008.
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Denials don't change facts.
It's impossible to change ideologists fantasies, so let me know when you stumble upon some actual facts.
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That isn't any more true than saying that the average Hillary supporter is an illegal, welfare leech with 8 babies and a WIC card.
Don't be a complete moron Cali, stupid is not a pretty color on you.
The extremes on both sides tend to display their ability to FUBAR reality, while we moderates fruitlessly try using reason. It has become hopeless really, and it's getting worse (sigh.)
Those of us who hold degrees can easily hold our noses and vote for Trump. Quit sounding so elitist.
Must be a degree from Trump University.
You really should ask for your money back since it didn't work out well.
Supporting a reality show host for POTUS shows a lack of critical thinking.
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Trump's popularity is both due to racist undertones and legitimate economic concerns. Too often the GOP message on Obama has veered into "that scary dark guy isn't one of us" rather than a serious discussion on how Obama is wrong on policy.
The GOP has been the main ones pushing for all the trade deals that gutted middle class blue collar jobs. Democrats and huge corporations pushing for massive immigration has also hurt American workers. One outsources their jobs, the other brings in people from other countries to work jobs in America. I think both Trump and Bernie touch on half truths about this but each has flaws. Trump is dividing working class voters by race, Bernie caters too much to the Starbucks crowd with the free college stuff. Trump is generally right on immigration while Bernie is mostly right about income inequality and Wall Street. For the record I will vote for neither Hillary nor Trump.
Yeah, ask the creditors ad shareholders he stiffed how successful and profitable it is for them. Trump came out ahead in dumping projects and businesses, the people who invested and were paid by him? Not so much.
You should read up a bit on Trump's Atlantic City businesses. Short story long: Trump wildly overleveraged his businesses, extracted every dime he could to his personal accounts, then declared bankruptcy, leaving investors and contractors holding the bag.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who ever purchased a junk bond with the name Trump on it (he had to offer 14%, which should show you how much faith people had in his business acumen), but the contractors - y'know, small businesses, the ones the GOP pretend to like - went unpaid, and many went under.
But hey, success for Trump, who tucked away 40+ million by failing.
Successful businessmen are supposed to keep the big clockwork that's the economy running. That's why they're amply rewarded. People like Trump get rich by stealing the grease.
Welcome to the world of big business.
He who put up the risk, will try everything legally possible to break even on someone elses problem as investment, that has no future.
I've said it before, and it bears repeating: The GOP courted the fringe for the last decade, and it now defines their party. They reaped what they sowed. They are no longer the party of Lincoln, and haven't been for a long time. Sad, really.
Really? Are you just broken up about what you have said for years about THEIR party and what THEY have done so wrong?
It always feels so good to express empathy after all that finger wagging and pontificating about what THAT party is doing wrong.
Too bad EVERYONE can't just be democrats. Amirite??
Careful you don't sprain your arm twisting it so hard to pat your own back.
Obama birth place had some credible questions that is not entirely answered to this day. We will never know exactly because of the Left's protection of Obama and the Clintons.
exactly what "credible questions" do you believe still exists? the facts of his birth were confirmed by the HI department of health in october 2008 and the 1961 HI birth index is, and has always been, open to the public ( which lists obama ).
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