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In 2008, the Republican elite (ie the Koch Brothers and their ilk) thought that is was funny that uneducated, working class and poor whites were doing their dirty work by running around calling Barack Obama everything but a child of God. But the wildfire started by the racist Tea Party Movement and the Birthers is now out of to control and is burning the GOP down to the ground.
More like, Donald Trump is punishment for not electing Pat Buchanan in 1992.
I really wish the birther people would realize how they are being played.
I'd bet money that an Obama advisor came up with the plan on how to build up the birth issue. Some very sly and smart person,....
obama released his birth certificate online in june 2008, it was confirmed by the HI department of health in october 2008. it's a pretty big leap to believe that those two simple actions were some intentional plot to create a ridiculous conspiracy theory.
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They could have immediately released the long form and put it to a quick end, but they played it out in order to draw in people and commit themselves to the narrative.
in 2001 HI stopped issuing "long-form" birth certificates in favor of the shorter abstract version. the "long-form" released in 2011 was an exception by special agreement of the HI department of health.
the belief that the "long-form" would have put an end to birtherism has been shown to be false. not only didn't the 2011 release end birtherism but it escalated it thanks to sheriff joe and his comically incompetent "cold-case posse's" claim that the long-form was fake.
I really wish the birther people would realize how they are being played.
I'd bet money that an Obama advisor came up with the plan on how to build up the birth issue. Some very sly and smart person, obviously not Obama, understood how if the birther issue gained enough traction, they'd be able to use it as a distraction and a way to make some of Obamas detractors look foolish. They could have immediately released the long form and put it to a quick end, but they played it out in order to draw in people and commit themselves to the narrative. It was a brilliant maneuver that is still paying off to this day.
Obama was born in Hawaii, period, and by continuing to bring it up, people will detract from legitimate issues.
This post is gold. Here you are, berating birthers for being played for falling for a preposterous conspiracy theory, while in the same breath you unfold a preposterous conspiracy theory of your own.
The birthers needed no help from the Democrats to look stupid. Their innate racism was more than sufficient to keep the movement fueled with no help from the outside.
I really wish the birther people would realize how they are being played.
I'd bet money that an Obama advisor came up with the plan on how to build up the birth issue. Some very sly and smart person, obviously not Obama, understood how if the birther issue gained enough traction, they'd be able to use it as a distraction and a way to make some of Obamas detractors look foolish. They could have immediately released the long form and put it to a quick end, but they played it out in order to draw in people and commit themselves to the narrative. It was a brilliant maneuver that is still paying off to this day.
Obama was born in Hawaii, period, and by continuing to bring it up, people will detract from legitimate issues.
The average Trump supporter barely graduated from high school if it all.
Uh-huh. Somehow when I think of Newark, Camden, Trenton, E St. Louis, Detroit, Compton, Oakland, etc., etc., impressive HS graduation rates don't come to mind. YMMV.
Give it up. You're coming across as either desperate or in need of attention.
In 2008, the Republican elite (ie the Koch Brothers and their ilk) thought that is was funny that uneducated, working class and poor whites were doing their dirty work by running around calling Barack Obama everything but a child of God. But the wildfire started by the racist Tea Party Movement and the Birthers is now out of to control and is burning the GOP down to the ground.
Nah, you don't get it.... The problem isn't Trump or the TEA Party, the problem IS the Republican Party.
The TEA Party and Trump are both a response to a Republican Party that has become a feckless, spineless group of weak-kneed morons who are too afraid to stand up for themselves against the Democratic machine. Trump and the TEA Party are a response to a Republican Party that has for years made promises to and taken advantage of it's base only to break those promises once elected; to a Republican Party that has lost touch with it's Conservative roots; to a Republican Party that has refused to stand up to Obama and the Democrats. If not for these things, than the TEA party would have never existed and Trump would never have gotten anywhere. Trump and the TEA Party are not just some anomaly that popped up randomly out of nowhere as you seem to be suggesting.
Apparently establishment Republicans STILL haven't gotten the message that THEY are the problem even after an election season where they have been rejected whole cloth. They have learned nothing. They still see themselves as holding the moral high ground as if they are entirely blameless in Trump's rise. It couldn't possibly be because of anything they did, or didn't do, right?
So in a way, yes, Trump and the TEA Party are the GOP's punishment, but not because the GOP didn't stop them, rather, it's because they are the ones that created them with their ineptitude in the first place. None of this is to say that I support Trump, but I certainly understand the reasons for why the base turned to him.
Last edited by WhipperSnapper 88; 06-28-2016 at 04:20 AM..
The birthers needed no help from the Democrats to look stupid.
there were some democrats among the birthers. most notably the PUMAs and phil berg who filed the first ( of eventually 230+ ) birther lawsuits.
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