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Also want to add, one thing I cannot stand is one minority group looking down on another minority group.
For example, I think a lot of asians (NOT all, definitely not all), but a lot of them looking down on black and Latinos. My sister is now engaged to be married to a black guy (well, first black guy in my family) An asian lady in the church said, my sister has slept with the color of rainbow, (or something like that)
This lady encouraged her daughter to date white men, but since my sister chose to marry to a black guy, she has problem with that, I guess.
Not all asians are like that, but many are. As a mixed race girl, I don't really have a group of "my people" that I feel I must be faithful to. My people are those who respect me and love me, skin colors don't matter.
My experience with some Mexican people is that they can be racist. Mrs. Chow's dad is Mexican and his Mexican girl friend used to say some really off the wall racist stuff about blacks.. I would sit there and just cringe when she would go off. White people aren't the only racist ones here. Contrary to public opinion.
I wonder if I went to a largely black or Asian country I wonder if I'd be treated poorly by the natives... makes you think twice about things.
My experience with some Mexican people is that they can be racist. Mrs. Chow's dad is Mexican and his Mexican girl friend used to say some really off the wall racist stuff about blacks.. I would sit there and just cringe when she would go off. White people aren't the only racist ones here. Contrary to public opinion.
I wonder if I went to a largely black or Asian country I wonder if I'd be treated poorly by the natives... makes you think twice about things.
Also want to add, one thing I cannot stand is one minority group looking down on another minority group.
For example, I think a lot of asians (NOT all, definitely not all), but a lot of them looking down on black and Latinos. My sister is now engaged to be married to a black guy (well, first black guy in my family) An asian lady in the church said, my sister has slept with the color of rainbow, (or something like that)
This lady encouraged her daughter to date white men, but since my sister chose to marry to a black guy, she has problem with that, I guess.
Not all asians are like that, but many are. As a mixed race girl, I don't really have a group of "my people" that I feel I must be faithful to. My people are those who respect me and love me, skin colors don't matter.
i can definitely relate to that. I had a crush on a half white, half Mexican girl before in high school and she introduced me to her parents, and her parents were like . Not surprisingly, years later, find out she's married to your typical John Smith. But I can't be hypocritical, I've only ever dated white women, too. My mom was similar, I know she secretly prefers if I only ever date white or Asian. My sister married your typical white Midwestern guy.
My experience with some Mexican people is that they can be racist. Mrs. Chow's dad is Mexican and his Mexican girl friend used to say some really off the wall racist stuff about blacks.. I would sit there and just cringe when she would go off. White people aren't the only racist ones here. Contrary to public opinion.
I wonder if I went to a largely black or Asian country I wonder if I'd be treated poorly by the natives... makes you think twice about things.
I honestly don't think white people or black people would have many problems in Asian countries. I've stayed six months in China. I think Chinese are good people who treat foreigners with a lot of respect. This doesn't mean they don't say stupid things, but they don't mean anything bad. =) Should visit sometimes. No worries.
One of the few experiences I had in terms of feeling racism toward me was on here on CD... there was a long since banned member that was Filipino and he went on to talk about white people and he basically said that his family used to make fun of whites and that they were inferior to them. I called him out on his post and he went back like a chicken and edited it out... friggin wimp... couldn't stand by his words...
One time I was working with a crew of Mexican guys and I was the only white dude there and they were clowning on me... but not in a fun way.... you know what I mean?????
i can definitely relate to that. I had a crush on a half white, half Mexican girl before in high school and she introduced me to her parents, and her parents were like . Not surprisingly, years later, find out she's married to your typical John Smith. But I can't be hypocritical, I've only ever dated white women, too. My mom was similar, I know she secretly prefers if I only ever date white or Asian. My sister married your typical white Midwestern guy.
My grandparents only wanted us to date white, white/japanese mixed, and Japanese. I think my parents are more open minded because they adore my brother's black Marine buddies. So when my sister wanted to marry a black guy, my parents are genuinely happy for her.
My sister in law is as white as white can be. She is several years older than my brother, and had two children from previous marriage. I always thought my brother could have done WAY better. But I kept it to myself. I have two brothers, their rule is "If you disrespect the woman I love, you disrespect me." They love me to death, but they will never allow me to criticize their women. I secretly wished my brother could marry a nice pretty girl with no kids. But I kept it to myself.
Growing up mostly in Kingman, Az I've probably encountered more racism as a kid-teen than now since I'm in my 30s.
Racists are a cowardly lot, so why pick on someone that could fight back when you can pick on children and women right? Dylan Roof talks about how "we" are rapists and killers, referring to us as gang bangers , ruining "pure" white Christian women with our tainted... well I won't go there, but it's so absurd it's hard not to laugh... Anyway, what does he do? Shoots up a peaceful black church. There is no logic among their type. Thing is, I'm a half breed but people insist I identify with a side, so they choose for me, guess which one?
That being said, as a child I've had people driving by toss their garbage at me while walking to school. From water balloons with the N word from the window, to empty beer bottles with the N word shouted from the window. I've witness parents teaching their kids to call me names and pick on me, had a little fat girl sing the N word song. Teacher let it be, was smiling from afar while I was crying.
The feeling that you're alone at that age I wouldn't recommend. It does get better, made a nice network of friends. The angry racist kids either rebelled or dropped out of school. You probably heard this line before "I don't want the public schools teaching my kid your evil liberal ways" So things like racial tolerance was considered "evil" but they won't come right out and say it, even now. So they fall back on the BS that the Bible should be the forefront of teaching over Math, Science, Etc. As I grew into a teen, I would be on constant alert that some of the other white teens who want to pick a fight. I was assumed to be prone to violence, it's in my nature etc. Granted I could of fought back, but at a young age I knew the odds were stacked against me. Was with a bunch of teens who were playing behind the stage at a junior high... I was the only one that got detention. Also was a fat kid, in HS we had a sub PE teacher made me run an entire mile, just out of spite. Whenever she subs, I would do more push ups and situps. There were more fatter kids than me but it eventually came clear she referred to me as "troublemaker" even tough I've never done anything to earn that.
Some parents would kick me out of friends houses the moment they wanted to bring me home. Grown adults calling me the N word and throwing me out like an intruder, or having that one nosy paranoid neighbor calling the cops when you're just sitting outside your own home.
The full frontal racism gradually declined, my more whiter features started to show and I don't grow an Afro anymore. Struggled with dating, learned that people view me as nothing more than a "thug" so it made me a bitter wreck for a while. Still get the occasional spook from certain folk and dumb religious people who can't comprehend what an interracial person looks like. I've learned that while some Christians are good, there are alot that are awful. What gets me are the anti-semetic ones. Jesus was a Jew but fair weather Christians downplay that... sorry off on a tangent.
Dating was rough, had one woman flat out tell me when I asked her out... despite us being cool, is that she doesn't date Nwords. Never talked since.... she literally felt offended when I asked her for a date... though with valley women dating is a HUGE deal. Other than that most of my failures were due to being "economically challenged" to put it nicely... and fat.
There's plenty of stories, but I'll get to the point. This election year sucks. I do not like either candidate. Say what you will about Sanders and his s-s-s-socialism, but he was the real deal. Sad thing is we'd get destroyed with tax burdens.
I'm looking at reluctantly voting for Hilary. Seems my choice is between a political criminal and a racist enforcer. Sanders kind of sold us out, but I think in the end he didn't have much of a choice. Hilary won't let his ideas come to light.
Trump... I wanted to like him at first, until he went ham on Mexicans, I can understand his take on Muslims, and even agree that globalization is killing our economy. His tax plans seem reasonable out of what was then, all three candidates. What really convinced me he's a dangerous man, was him getting endorsed by Neo Nazis and KKK, both very unAmerican by historical standards which took him some time to disavow. Though I'm wondering if he did this sooner, he'd lose votes. Seems crackpotish, but I want to get the impression Trump is playing his hard core supporters. He is a business man afterall, and he has done it for a long time. I mean all you have to do is say alt-right talking points and get the racist seals clapping their fins and hooting... the RNC revealed this all to well. He can't talk about the victims shot/abused by law enforcement, but want's to find measures to protect them... doesn't sound right but his hardcore supporters would boo the moment he says something akin police reform.
There's been talk that Trump has been acting this whole time, I want to find some links, but it'll take some time. Trump has been known to lie real big, backtrack on some issues and flat out DENY claims. Perhaps he had to lie to get this far in the election, rally up support from even the worse common denominators (MRA, Alt Right, fair weather Christians, etc)... and if that was the case, I can't blame him. Going against Hilary, he knew exactly what to say and considering he gets more support form the alt-right and former Sanders supporters, he's has a good hand. It also could be, that Trump has far more to lose if Hilary gets elected and he couldn't allow it to happen. Make no mistake, his ego is huge, but I want to wish that he's just playing the bad people for suckers to get elected and actually work on fixing this country.
^ Thank you for sharing this. It's enlightening. Growing up I was occasionally called "white boy" in a derogatory fashion by the Mexicans in the neighborhood, but I was never picked on and bullied to this extent for my skin pigmentation.
I particularly like your observation that racists are cowards so they pick on the small and the weak. It's true. I can't imagine a white supremacist a-hole driving up to a jacked black man in his 20s who is strapped and calling him the N word. He'll just wait for that weakling little black ten year old to walk by so he can assert his dominance and prove to himself what a he-man he is.
One of the few experiences I had in terms of feeling racism toward me was on here on CD... there was a long since banned member that was Filipino and he went on to talk about white people and he basically said that his family used to make fun of whites and that they were inferior to them. I called him out on his post and he went back like a chicken and edited it out... friggin wimp... couldn't stand by his words...
One time I was working with a crew of Mexican guys and I was the only white dude there and they were clowning on me... but not in a fun way.... you know what I mean?????
Yes, I do.
Here's a story for you:
About 20 years ago (I'm 45) I worked for a utility company. While I and others were receiving training from the company, we would leave the training center for lunch. I noticed that the Hispanic guys and the white guys would eat with their own 'ethnic/race group'. I couldn't connect with either group. The Hispanic guys thought I was white (albeit darker) because I didn't speak Spanish while the white guys must have figured (I'm guessing) that I belonged with the Hispanics.
So then what? I usually ate by myself, that's what.
Over time, I've realized that when you're mixed ethic/race, sometimes you don't quite 'fit' any group.
I born and grew up in south beach then moved north PA/ NJ,/ MD, because dad was looking for better work. I think I felt more racism in the north than in the south. I never heard any hate language until moved to PA, I was 10/ 11 or so and it was during the civil rights stuff, so lots of negative talk. I chose to go home as an adult and I it was much more tolerant.
I saw a much different tolerance from city to town. Guess small towns only like their own. I imagine, south beach always was a tourist Mecca from people from all over the world. I'm glad I am from there .
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. Not surprisingly, years later, find out she's married to your typical John Smith. But I can't be hypocritical, I've only ever dated white women, too. My mom was similar, I know she secretly prefers if I only ever date white or Asian. My sister married your typical white Midwestern guy.
