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Old 07-30-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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Could be worse, try listening to the Urban channel on Sirius. You'll wonder how people survive with absolutely no clue and no ability to think for themselves. I mean, Damn, they make Rush fans look like Stephen Hawking.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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My impression is Stacy Dash gets paid a lot of money to say about blacks what Fox News wants to say about blacks but can't. Framing it as her opinion absolves Fox News, making it almost "bashing blacks by proxy". What's shocking to me is that she's willing to do it but I guess no one is hiring her in Hollywood anymore.
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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None of that changes my point or adds to your own.
Yes it does. Quite a few change who they endorse.

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You missed the point princess
lol No I didn't. And if you are going to use that, at least use it correctly.

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You completely side stepped it. My post isnt about what form of government works or not. So there for you arent actually responding to my post.
Go back and look at exactly what i was responding to.

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No, you actually called her a progressive in the response, you didnt just say she wasnt a Conservative.
Progressive believe in big government. Just like Tax Hike Mike Huckabee

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and you can say they arent conservative, that doesnt make it true.
Their actions define them as not being conservative.

Keep trying to be right instead of looking for the truth and you will always be lost.
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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My impression is Stacy Dash gets paid a lot of money to say about blacks what Fox News wants to say about blacks but can't. Framing it as her opinion absolves Fox News, making it almost "bashing blacks by proxy". What's shocking to me is that she's willing to do it but I guess no one is hiring her in Hollywood anymore.
I don't think those gigs pay much.
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Old 07-30-2016, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Keep trying to be right instead of looking for the truth and you will always be lost.
I have always found that saying to not make sense. What is right is the truth.

What that saying should be is....


Keep trying to win an argument instead of looking for the truth and you will always be lost. Truth be told, it describes your series of posts exactly.

What you posted was a series of missteps and attempts to frame a discussion. Those attempts failed.
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Old 07-30-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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I realized a long time ago that black conservatives are a joke for the most part. One or two of them make sense, but the rest of the bunch are shrill opportunists that know that they'll be put in front of the line just because they're black. They enjoy the fame and adulation they get from white conservatives for bucking the rest of the black community that they despise.

I watched them very closely in 2008, because the Obama election presented a serious quandary from Black Conservatives by their own admission. Many said that they felt conflicted. JC Watts is someone that maintained an even keel during that time. So did Michael Steele. I don't know if they voted for Obama or not, but after his election, they were very respectful.

That said, i don't fully trust any black person that didn't vote for Obama in 2008. If they switched up in 2012, that's cool.
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I have always found that saying to not make sense. What is right is the truth.
Because you don't seek the truth. Anyone who supported the bald faced liar in the White House and that low life scumbag Hillary cares not about the truth.

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What that saying should be is....
Keep trying to win an argument instead of looking for the truth and you will always be lost. Truth be told, it describes your series of posts exactly.
You aren't speaking the truth. You are blinded by a twisted agenda that has nothing to do with the truth.

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What you posted was a series of missteps and attempts to frame a discussion. Those attempts failed.
The only thing that is a failure here are your posts. You have not disproved anything I've posted. Your posts are irrational, emotional tabloid garbage.
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I realized a long time ago that black conservatives are a joke for the most part. One or two of them make sense, but the rest of the bunch are shrill opportunists that know that they'll be put in front of the line just because they're black. They enjoy the fame and adulation they get from white conservatives for bucking the rest of the black community that they despise.

I watched them very closely in 2008, because the Obama election presented a serious quandary from Black Conservatives by their own admission. Many said that they felt conflicted. JC Watts is someone that maintained an even keel during that time. So did Michael Steele. I don't know if they voted for Obama or not, but after his election, they were very respectful.
Why would someone respect a failure and a liar like obama?

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That said, i don't fully trust any black person that didn't vote for Obama in 2008. If they switched up in 2012, that's cool.
So blacks should have voted in Obama in 2008 because he's black. Good to see your racism in the open again. Why would ANYONE vote for Obama in 2008? His policies were known failures.
Bailouts, keep us in never ending wars in the Middle East, manipulate the economy. No different than McCain. Just the hand picked winners and losers would differ.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:04 PM
 
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Why would someone respect a failure and a liar like obama?

So blacks should have voted in Obama in 2008 because he's black. Good to see your racism in the open again. Why would ANYONE vote for Obama in 2008? His policies were known failures.
Bailouts, keep us in never ending wars in the Middle East, manipulate the economy. No different than McCain. Just the hand picked winners and losers would differ.
As for your first question, i like Obama despite your sentiments. Your opinion suits you. It's has nothing to do with me.

As for your second question, i'm not gonna elaborate on that. Members of the tribe know what i mean even if they might not agree, and that's all that's important. You don't need to understand it because you're not in the tribe. Okay?

I'm being respectful. Leave it at that.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I would like to consider myself a life long black conservative. Even if I wasn't raised conservative, I've always held these values. Aside from a small 4 year stint where I was a staunch socialist, I've always considered myself conservative. I do identify more with the libertarian viewpoint now days, because they promote liberty which SHOULD be a conservative value. I also believe that the free market has most solutions, wars are fought for profits, and I don't support cronyism. I also feel libertarians, and even constittutionalist represent everything a conservative should be.

With that said, black conservatives are an absolute joke. Most of them are no intelligent, have little to no insight on issues, and represent poor logic or critical thinking when it comes to issues. Stacy Dash is a perfect example of the issue with black conservatives. Steeped knee deep in intellectual dishonesty, does nothing but bash black people, but the most important thing:

OFFERS NO SOLUTIONS

Seems like most "liberals who like cops and war" aka republicans are so willing to give idiots like Stacy Dash a platform. But she has shown she knows nothing about economics, noting about social issues, nothing about economic conditions in the ghetto, nothing about history that drives most contemporary black thought, and nothing about noting. She is literally there to bash black people. She has no expertise on anything she talks about.

I do think the free market way is the best way to go for black people. But black people must first understand why the free market works for them. Whenever black conservatives get on air, they always have the chance to promote why the free market works. Yet they never do. Just a short piece bashing black people, and that's it.


So it seems like the whole idea of black conservatism is to be shameless apologist for statism, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism. And that's about all they stand for. It becomes painfully obvious when you try to reach out to other black conservatives, and you realize there really isn't anything of substance when it comes to black conservatism.

This is why the face of black conservatism must change. I feel black liberals are quick to criticize Stacy Dash, or some other idiot black commentator. But black conservatives aren't doing it. And that needs to change. Black conservatism isn't just being shills for the status quo. It is based on principals, and I feel black conservatives need to get back to these principals.
Plenty of common sense and workable solutions have been offered by so many folks- male, female, white, black, other, etc. No one listens because well, [fill in the blank] not just for blacks, plenty of broken people in our society.

Interesting how when the Great Depression hit our country that generation wanted to work for their livelihood and their dignity. The idea of a handout was abhorrent. I think that is the great difference between's today's Lost Generation and the one then.
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