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Old 11-12-2016, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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If all of the big nations get together to fight climate change, we can achieve real results. And even if it supposedly isn't human influenced (which I don't believe for a minute), so what? What do we lose if we try? Eventually we're going to have to wean ourselves off fossil fuels, anyway, because they're finite. Ever hear of "peak oil"? Supplies don't last forever.
Why don't you try living in a cave, with no electricity and running water for a month and report back? Will it be that dramatic if we "do something"? Probably not. Will it mean squeezing already tight budgets and families doing without other things to pay for higher energy costs? Certainly. Will it mean more businesses going under due to higher costs and ridiculous levels of regulations? Absolutely. Will it mean more people out of work? Of course. Will it do a thing to change the weather? Bloody unlikely.
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Old 11-12-2016, 05:26 PM
 
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Why don't you try living in a cave, with no electricity and running water for a month and report back? Will it be that dramatic if we "do something"? Probably not. Will it mean squeezing already tight budgets and families doing without other things to pay for higher energy costs? Certainly. Will it mean more businesses going under due to higher costs and ridiculous levels of regulations? Absolutely. Will it mean more people out of work? Of course. Will it do a thing to change the weather? Bloody unlikely.
I'd like to see sources for all these claims. You seem to know quite a bit.
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Old 11-12-2016, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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No one denies that climate changes.
We just laugh at the fools who think that we caused it and that we can "fix" it.
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Old 11-12-2016, 06:36 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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No one denies that climate changes.
We just laugh at the fools who think that we caused it and that we can "fix" it.
Climate change has been a great racket. Taxpayers in the US and all over the western world have funded all sorts of boondoggles on the basis of climate change. Many fortunes have been made.
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Old 11-12-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Thank God for that. Real science not leftwing wacko science.
So climate change = junk science
Gay conversion therapy = real science

Fair enough

Mike Pence Supported 'Gay Conversion' Therapy? : snopes.com
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Old 11-12-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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So climate change = junk science
Gay conversion therapy = real science

Fair enough

Mike Pence Supported 'Gay Conversion' Therapy? : snopes.com
So because the VP elect has wacky religious based ideas about human sexuality, that means that skepticism over the alarmism, fear mongering and dogmatic bullying that has influenced the climate debate should now be ignored or somehow diminished?

Nice strawman there!
Basically it's those dumb right wing bible thumpers versus the intellectual left wing scholars, right?
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Old 11-12-2016, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Climate change is real; it's happening now, but some people are just too stupid or willfully blind to see it.
So far the ice cores can only provide us a glimpse into the Eemian warm period. But we can already tell that Eemian climate was significantly warmer than the climate of the current Holocene interglacial - probably about 5°C warmer.

A glimpse into the Eemian – University of Copenhagen

That's the Neils Bohr Institute at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark.

What conclusions can you draw?
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Old 11-12-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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So because the VP elect has wacky religious based ideas about human sexuality, that means that skepticism over the alarmism, fear mongering and dogmatic bullying that has influenced the climate debate should now be ignored or somehow diminished?

Nice strawman there!
Basically it's those dumb right wing bible thumpers versus the intellectual left wing scholars, right?
Not necessarily. I was responding to the guy calling it leftwing wacko science. I don't feel any fear mongering going on with the climate control. It is what it is and I don't understand it all myself. Do you feel bullied by the science? Bullied is such an odd word here.
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