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Well I remember having gun safety presentations in grade school in the early 70s. And hunter safety was offered as an extracurricular course in junior high and high school through the late 70s and early 80's in the town I grew up in. I finished HS in CA though and anything gun related was conspicuously absent in school there. Here we drove into s hooligans with rifles and shotguns in our truck racks. There was never any problems. I did that one time at the CA school and caused fair fits of apoplexy. I was just going hog hunting after school. Same kind of reason we brought our guns to school here.
Being young and not realizing I wasn't in NW NV anymore...lol silly me.
Hunter safety was a requirement in elementary/jr. high school in the 70's in Cali. I had to take it in 8th grade before I could go on to high school. But back then high school students had guns in racks in their trucks for hunting after school. My school was in northern cali and a farm town. LOL.
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Shoot first, ask questions later? Don't wait until you see the whites of their eyes?
Explain how that works on a crowded, noisy sidewalk, will you?
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Originally Posted by sware2cod
Shoot someone before they do anything? Kill em because he got within 6 feet of her? Why did you shoot him m'am? He was 6 feet away and walking toward me asking for a light.
I'm pretty sure I never mentioned a firearm. What is your mind focused on?
<shrug>
You do what you think best for yourself.
The fact is that if you let the guy get close enough to touch you, you're pretty much defeated, and if he's within 20 feet, he's close enough to harm you before you can do anything about it. You figure out how you want to handle that.
Unless you're Scarlett Johanssen wearing black leather, of course.
The fact is that if you let the guy get close enough to touch you, you're pretty much defeated, and if he's within 20 feet, he's close enough to harm you before you can do anything about it.
So, if you aren't advocating the use of a firearm, how do you propose that people keep others 20 feet away?
So, if you aren't advocating the use of a firearm, how do you propose that people keep others 20 feet away?
Tell him loudly and firmly to stop. Move around to the other side of the car. Pull out your pepper spray. Start running. Dial 911. What's your current plan if you're attacked? Have you even thought of anything? I don't know, don't care.
I'm just saying you'd better do it while the guy is still 20 feet away--if he's gotten any closer it will be too late.
Well NV- YOU feel that way, and I respect you for it. I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Maybe a bit of non lethal whoopass on the punks might be in order
But I admit I've seen here, in real life, and other forums/social media, where MANY gun owners DO act all badazz and omnipotent, talking all sorts of tough, only because they have their gun. I see it here plenty, but worse, I've seen/heard more in real life. More folks need to adopt your outlook on the issue, as that would cut down on the needless violence.
Yes, there are people who feel that all social conflict can be settled with a firearm. We've seen these types come into the CCW course I help instruct. They don't last long, or if they stay they receive and best accept a big dose of humility. Carrying a firearm does NOT in any way shape or form denote having the high ground in any and all conflict. What it does mean is that one is equipped to stand and deliver when the situation is lethal and calls for lethal means.
Mouthy punks and someone cutting you off on the road don't qualify. Even use of non lethal methods must be carefully considered. While the latter may not kill they still have the ability to cause considerable injury and the pain associated with that. Any means of self defense that you may use also comes with legal ramifications. Even if defending oneself is completely justified and nessecary if the cops get involved there will be an investigation and you had better be able to answer all the questions asked with I's and T's dotted and crossed.
The single best weapon we have at our disposal is our brain and ability to apply mind over matter. Someone very close to me had to use lethal means to defend herself from an attack and despite the fact that the creep had every I checked of what he got coming the aftermath,(the investigation and court proceedings were flat brutal) effects her quite adversely to this day. And me as well.
At any rate, in our CCW course we teach reality. Not Hollywood fantasy. We like to believe we are doing good works. We've seen many people be quite taken aback but what reality truly is as opposed to preconceived notions. Some accept it whilst we've seen some who leave in search of a course that serves their notions. Happily the latter are small in number. We've even had LE types that didn't stay for the full duration of the course, and anyone who bows out thus we are happy to refund their course fees. Carrying a lethal means of self defense, firearm or other , I will agree is not for every single person. Certain character qualities and mental abilities need to be present and even if those qualities are present they need to be well cultivated. There's always room for improvement even with people who are considered to be top in the field.
It's not easy to be armed. It shouldn't be. We like to see the course I work in (I'm an unpaid volunteer) as being as much about self improvement as self defense. We teach the "why" as much as the "how". That actions have consequences and that decisions should be made from an informed position. Bullets don't just go back in the barrel and this is the World, not a movie, where people recover from being involved in a violent encounter with nary a mark, either physical or phsycological. We have used scenes from various movies as prime examples of what NOT to do and also as examples of how things really arent.
Yes, there are people who feel that all social conflict can be settled with a firearm. We've seen these types come into the CCW course I help instruct. They don't last long, or if they stay they receive and best accept a big dose of humility. Carrying a firearm does NOT in any way shape or form denote having the high ground in any and all conflict. What it does mean is that one is equipped to stand and deliver when the situation is lethal and calls for lethal means.
Mouthy punks and someone cutting you off on the road don't qualify. Even use of non lethal methods must be carefully considered. While the latter may not kill they still have the ability to cause considerable injury and the pain associated with that. Any means of self defense that you may use also comes with legal ramifications. Even if defending oneself is completely justified and nessecary if the cops get involved there will be an investigation and you had better be able to answer all the questions asked with I's and T's dotted and crossed.
The single best weapon we have at our disposal is our brain and ability to apply mind over matter. Someone very close to me had to use lethal means to defend herself from an attack and despite the fact that the creep had every I checked of what he got coming the aftermath,(the investigation and court proceedings were flat brutal) effects her quite adversely to this day. And me as well.
At any rate, in our CCW course we teach reality. Not Hollywood fantasy. We like to believe we are doing good works. We've seen many people be quite taken aback but what reality truly is as opposed to preconceived notions. Some accept it whilst we've seen some who leave in search of a course that serves their notions. Happily the latter are small in number. We've even had LE types that didn't stay for the full duration of the course, and anyone who bows out thus we are happy to refund their course fees. Carrying a lethal means of self defense, firearm or other , I will agree is not for every single person. Certain character qualities and mental abilities need to be present and even if those qualities are present they need to be well cultivated. There's always room for improvement even with people who are considered to be top in the field.
It's not easy to be armed. It shouldn't be. We like to see the course I work in (I'm an unpaid volunteer) as being as much about self improvement as self defense. We teach the "why" as much as the "how". That actions have consequences and that decisions should be made from an informed position. Bullets don't just go back in the barrel and this is the World, not a movie, where people recover from being involved in a violent encounter with nary a mark, either physical or phsycological. We have used scenes from various movies as prime examples of what NOT to do and also as examples of how things really arent.
Sounds like a great course for CCW. Everything you say is in accord with what I have read and studied through the years by firearms and self defense experts such as Mas Ayoob.
In a Hillary America that Right would have been threatened.
Totally false. Wanting stronger laws to keep guns out of the wrong hands is NOT the same as banning them, but we heard the same horse manure from the NRA and other anti-gun control groups when Obama was running for POTUS in 2008 and 2012. So, when did Obama take away all of our guns or the 10 thousand other conspiracies we heard over the past 8 years?
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I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Maybe a bit of non lethal whoopass on the punks might be in order 
