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Old 01-29-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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well then why was everyone protesting and calling Trump a racist, sorry but they knew and should have not left....if they are truly American Citizens. You cannot bend the law for some and not others, we've got to start somewhere
What are you talking about?

They didn't "leave" - they went overseas for whatever reason. Vacation, whatever. You can't "leave" the US and remain a LPR.

You do realize the people that weren't let in were not necessarily coming back from their country of origin?

There are students that went to Canada for the weekend and are now barred from entry.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:54 AM
 
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Being "skeptical" is one thing, barring entry to Legal Permanent Residents who have gone through the whole process, live here and have families here, is something else altogether.
Further vetting them, given the fact that it is KNOWN that several have become radicalized abroad and then return to commit terrorist acts, is prudent. It's the President's job to uphold national security.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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You also didn't answer my question, which did not deal with the difficulty of coming here.

Walk in the park? Refugees, as you know, are fast tracked.
BS. It takes at least two years to reach refugee status.

ALL CITIZENS FROM THOSE COUNTRIES ARE BANNED. NOT JUST REFUGEES.

I answered the part of your question that had to do with the topic. The other stuff is not relevant.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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You're wrong... it is unconstitutional to punish an undocumented person for committing a crime. And it's racist. Love Trump's hate okay. We owe it to these people because Americans have stolen from everyone.

Enough with Trump. Resist! He will not Divide us.
Where do you come up with this stuff?

Must have had all liberal teachers.

The very FACT that they are ILLEGAL MAKES THEM CRIMINALS and are subject to arrest and jail or deportation.
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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Further vetting them, given the fact that it is KNOWN that several have become radicalized abroad and then return to commit terrorist acts, is prudent. It's the President's job to uphold national security.
Source? What LPR'S from those countries have committed terroist acts? List the several please.
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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This board confuses me. What President Trump was elected to do was to solve the illegal immigration issue. How did that morph into a mandate to go after green card holders etc. ? Was the issue of illegal immigrants used as a tool, justification to address others issues that have nothing to do with illegal immigration?

If the issue is national security then why merge it or murky it with illegal immigration concerns. Let the nation be clear and talk about National Security.
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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Sad. These people came here legally, the right way. They have homes, jobs and families in the US. These people are taxpaying members of our country and many perform high-skilled labor and are productive members of society. Tech workers, engineers, doctors. He could have at least put these people on notice so they could make travel arrangements to return. There was no advance warning about permanent residents being barred entry, just visa applicants and refugees. There will most definitely be lawsuits.

I find it interesting that Saudi Arabia isn't on the list of banned countries, even though Saudi Arabia is the mother ship of radical Islamic extremism and exports it all over the world. And their citizens can still get a visa and come to the US. Didn't really make sense, but then I remembered, Trump does business in Saudi Arabia.

Unknown number of U.S. permanent residents stuck overseas as a result of Trump's immigration ban - LA Times
Sorry, they hold VISA's and a Visa CAN be suspended or revoke at ANY TIME.
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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Sorry, they hold VISA's and a Visa CAN be suspended or revoke at ANY TIME.
OMG get a clue.

Seriously.

That's not correct. You cannot just revoke a Green Card "at any time" under the current law.
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:16 AM
 
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This board confuses me. What President Trump was elected to do was to solve the illegal immigration issue. How did that morph into a mandate to go after green card holders etc. ? Was the issue of illegal immigrants used as a tool, justification to address others issues that have nothing to do with illegal immigration?

If the issue is national security then why merge it or murky it with illegal immigration concerns. Let the nation be clear and talk about National Security.
I certainly didn't envision it being to detain green card holders, students who are here legally, tearing families apart, etc. But his conservative base seems to love it.

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OMG get a clue.

Seriously.

That's not correct. You cannot just revoke a Green Card "at any time" under the current law.
Thank you. Trump's hastily thought out EO's are a JOKE. No one knew what to do or how to do it becuase it was not communicated to those who are charged with carrying out his order.

A complete and utter failure at the highest level.

No one should be surprised.
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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Source? What LPR'S from those countries have committed terroist acts? List the several please.
It's not just LPRs. It's also US citizens with ties to the ME:

http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand...ND_PE130-1.pdf
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